Fellow 'old pros'...I've got a stumper....

[helmstead]

The dex is the MOST important with either because it aids in bringing down the inflamation of the brain stem...and therefore eases symptoms and lessens the chance of permanent damage. Banamine...I would primarily use as a fever reducer and pain management drug in this instance.

Oops - you are are right. I forgot that Banamine is usualy given in CONJUNCTION WITH Tetracycline but is not in itself an antibiotic.

I have no idea what you're refering to here...banamine is a smooth muscle relaxer and anti-inflamatory.

Shame you will loose a pregnancy, but as you've said, save the doe first.

 

[Roll farms]

She may not have been preggo yet...but I thought she was in heat the day after he got here...13 days ago.

I'm really thinking it's not / wasn't listeriosis the more I ponder it...thinking it's polio and I didn't get the thiamine in her fast enough...the two just look too much alike.

Gave her the dex and more gatoraide....gotta work tonight so no more updates until I get home.

Please keep up the 'good thoughts / vibes'...

 

[cmjust0]

Please keep up the 'good thoughts / vibes'...

We're all pulling for ya/her.

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

 

[jodief100]

I have no idea what you're refering to here...banamine is a smooth muscle relaxer and anti-inflamatory.

I have never used it with my goats, my aunt used it on her cows, always along with Tetracycline. Must be a cow thing....... I am trying to remember why she used it but it has been a long time.

Learn something new every day....... I think I will shut up now since I cannot fit anymore of my foot in my mouth.

Positive thoughts to Raven......... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

[cmjust0]

I have no idea what you're refering to here...banamine is a smooth muscle relaxer and anti-inflamatory.

You forgot fever reducer. It's really good for that.

I have never used it with my goats, my aunt used it on her cows, always along with Tetracycline.

Given that fevers are the #1 indication that an animal has an infection and needs to be on antibiotics, it's not uncommon to employ a fever reducer in conjunction with an antibiotic.

More often than not, I do..

 

[helmstead]

You forgot fever reducer. It's really good for that.

I said that somewhere on back...somewhere... See, in horses...I use it for the smooth muscle relaxing part. In goats, I use it as a fever reducer. For both, I like the pain relieving part. It's just one of those meds I've had on hand, in tack trunk, in glove box...etc...ever since I was 13 because esp with horses you never know when you'll need it.

Roll, did you get some Thiamine when you went to the vet's?? I would give it IV a few times...

Good luck, hope there's an improvement update soon. Best I can recall, it took something in the area of 4 days to see motor skill improvement in the doe I treated for listo a couple years ago.

 

[PJisaMom]

Been watching this thread closely! Keeping the fingers crossed for both you and Raven...

 

[ksalvagno]

I sure hope Raven pulls through for you.

 

[Roll farms]

She is much worse tonight....I'm pretty disappointed.

Won't swallow her 'food' (feed / alfalfa mash softened w/ gatoraide).
Much more vocal (whiney) and much more teeth grinding.
Her head is becoming raw from constantly pushing / rubbing on the wall.

The vet didn't have straight thiamine, so he sold me 'fortified B vitamin' which had nearly 10x the thiamine my B vitamin had...

The more DH and I talk about it, the more confused I am about "what" her problem is.

I have pretty much ruled out Listeriosis at all...

The highest her temp ever got was 104.8....not enough (IMHO) to cause the symptoms she's having.

She hasn't responded at all to the B shots (she's had it every 6 hours since the onset, first regular B then the fortified B for the last 1.5 days.)

The dex didn't do anything for her today, but I will admit it might have if given sooner....

As we all have said, goats (in general) and dealing w/ sick ones is always a learning experience and since I started out thinking I was treating listeriosis, and hadn't used Dex when treating that before, I didn't think I'd 'need' it / the possible risks didn't seem worth it at the time.

Anyhow, at this point I'm not so sure it's Polio, since the fortified B isn't helping either....BUT....the literature I've read says if it goes on too long before treatment, they may not recover.

And....I've said from the first she may have been hit hard by one of the 4 goats in the pen who are much bigger than she is and have horns.

I hate when I don't know exactly what the problem is...when there are too many possibles / variables.

She'll be getting Dex again tomorrow....along w/ more fortified B.

If she doesn't start to show improvement by Monday, I'll probably have the vet put her down. She's miserable.