Final Necropsy Results on Fourth Dead Kid In. Nope. Nope. Nope :(

[SkyWarrior]

Glad to hear he is protesting a bit! Still keeping my hopes up for you.
BTW- I have missed you Sky!

Giardia will cause water like diarrhea, tapes usually cause logs and then can turn to mushy like diarrhea but have never seen tapes cause liquid diarrhea.

Remember use the fenben 3-5 days straight.
Also even though the fenben says for goats the actual dosage formulation on the back was not based on goats. It was based on cattle.
Every goat vet I work with says either 9cc or 10cc per 100 lbs.
I use to use the formulation on the back and never had a problem but we also never had worm issues but tapes seem to pop up here and there as well as almost every new goat we have come in is loaded with tape. When having a hard time dealing with the tape is when I found out about the dosage etc. a few years ago.

They really do not study goats at all. No $ in it.

Of course you should do what your vet recommends.

Why, thank you Southern! I've missed you too. I sometimes drop off into the ether because I'm so busy. I don't mean to, but it happens. We've had some really bad things happen with our dogs (medical problems) and enough crazy work to keep me awake working to dawn. Yeah, that weird.

The only thing I know that fixes giardia is metronidazole. Is there something else I should consider? He still has watery poop. He was chasing after mom to give him milk and protested so much about the electrolytes that when I tried to get his mouth open, he bit my finger. I yelled and at the same time, he sprayed the electrolyte solution, so I got a taste of it. Actually wasn't too bad, kinda of like Gatorade. But now I have baby goat germs.

He is active and running around. He is currently getting the following:

6 cc scour-chek
10 mg probios (morning/night)
3 to 10 oz electrolytes (bounce back morning/night -- sometimes afternoon too)
10 cc Corid
.6 cc Fenbenazole

No wonder the little guy is fed up with me. If I didn't have two doelings die the same day, I think I would be a little more cautious. But I'm really tired of feeding the ravens here.

 

[Southern by choice]

How much does he weigh?

Fenbendazole does treat Giardia.

Edited to add- How old is he?

 

[babsbag]

Isn't that a pretty high dose of scour check? I thought it was 2cc 2x a day? Maybe not the same stuff I used?

I was using the actual SafeGuard for goats and was giving about 4cc and he weighs about 30 lbs. I know the stuff is SAFE so I went a little high on the dose. (safe for the goat AND safe for the worm). The first day I saw no improvement. Day 2 and 3 were dog logs and day 4 berries. He never went off feed but wasn't his perky little self either. He is about 3.5 months so already weaned so no milk or bottle. His scours were liquid, not even pudding. I treated 3 days with scour halt and twice with Toltrazuril. He had also been treated at 4 weeks for cocci and it cleared up.

I also gave him a dose of Duramycin and LA300 because I have a bunch of kids with coughs. I am treating them all as I catch them. I doubt that medication had any affect on the scours in causing or curing.

 

[SkyWarrior]

How much does he weigh?

Fenbendazole does treat Giardia.

Edited to add- How old is he?

He weighs about 15 lbs, would be my guess. (Pygmy x Lamancha) He is almost 4 weeks old, I think. I've been giving him .6 ml of Fenbendazole made for goats according to the directions on the package.

Isn't that a pretty high dose of scour check? I thought it was 2cc 2x a day? Maybe not the same stuff I used?

Ah, you're testing me where I got my dosages! Let me look...

Here: http://www.backyardherds.com/threads/scours-frustration.14207/

 

[Southern by choice]

He weighs about 15 lbs, would be my guess. (Pygmy x Lamancha) He is almost 4 weeks old, I think. I've been giving him .6 ml of Fenbendazole made for goats according to the directions on the package.

Although the packaging says for goats it was formulated for cows.
According to all my vets that would be severely under dosing.

 

[SkyWarrior]

What would you recommend?

Although the packaging says for goats it was formulated for cows.
According to all my vets that would be severely under dosing.

 

[SkyWarrior]

BTW, he seems to be acting better. He's annoyed at me to the point he grinds his teeth when I force the bottle into his mouth. Did I mentions the screaming when I try to force everything down his gullet?

He wants to eat hay and drink water as well as get milk. I have not seen any scours since yesterday.

 

[babsbag]

Well I probably completely overdosed on the FenBen. I used Safeguard goat wormer and I did 2 cc for a goat the weighs about 30 lbs. Why are these animals so difficult to get accurate doses on?

As far as the Scour Halt, I followed the dose on the package for pigs and it was 2cc for over 20 lbs 2x a day. Maybe that wasn't enough? It worked on the LaMancha kids that I struggled with for weeks; but did nothing for the current problem child.

It has been a rough year in my barn too. I still have nasty nasty coughs out there. Oh, and one more that started scouring yesterday. Treated her for cocci and she looks better, hope that is all it was.

 

[SkyWarrior]

Well I probably completely overdosed on the FenBen. I used Safeguard goat wormer and I did 2 cc for a goat the weighs about 30 lbs. Why are these animals so difficult to get accurate doses on?

As far as the Scour Halt, I followed the dose on the package for pigs and it was 2cc for over 20 lbs 2x a day. Maybe that wasn't enough? It worked on the LaMancha kids that I struggled with for weeks; but did nothing for the current problem child.

It has been a rough year in my barn too. I still have nasty nasty coughs out there. Oh, and one more that started scouring yesterday. Treated her for cocci and she looks better, hope that is all it was.

If it makes you feel any better about your current problem child, his scours haven't stopped even with the Scour-halt. So, now I'm looking at upping the dose of Fenben and buying some Dimethox online. On the other hand, he is eating and drinking, and he appears to have plenty of energy. Just runny poop. Sigh.

 

[SkyWarrior]

@Southern by choice: What would you recommend for the amount of Fenbendazole I should use?