Galloways on my wish list

[Royd Wood]

the galloway has a very closed herdbook-- and you cannot criss cross the colors together and make a registerable calf.

Yes you can

example Black x Dun = Red

 

[kfacres]

the galloway has a very closed herdbook-- and you cannot criss cross the colors together and make a registerable calf.

just a little FYI.

They come in belted, black, white, and dun.

erm also try silver, red, red belted, dun belted.

The galloway breed has the most variation in color of any breed I can think of. They can be black, dun, red, golden, or white. This doesn't count the belted color pattern. Each of these colors has its own herd book. The original solid colored Galloways were predominately black, with reds and some greys (duns).

The Fullblood Galloways are Blacks, Reds, and Duns (dark dun to silver). These are registered in the same herdbook. galloways have a very stict purebread pollicy, you cant mix a solid and a white its not considered a purebread anymore galloway breaders dont mix they stick to one of the 3 types and one only

Attached is the herdbook rules for the American Galloway Breeders Assoc. The Canadian Galloway Association is basically identical.

http://www.americangalloway.com/pdf/Herdbook.pdf

 

[Royd Wood]

the galloway has a very closed herdbook-- and you cannot criss cross the colors together and make a registerable calf.

just a little FYI.

They come in belted, black, white, and dun.

erm also try silver, red, red belted, dun belted.

you cant mix a solid and a white its not considered a purebread anymore

Yes you can

galloway breaders dont mix they stick to one of the 3 types and one only

No they dont

Attached is the herdbook rules for the American Galloway Breeders Assoc.

The Canadian Galloway Association is basically identical.

No it isn't

http://www.americangalloway.com/pdf/Herdbook.pdf

 

[kfacres]

erm also try silver, red, red belted, dun belted.

you cant mix a solid and a white its not considered a purebread anymore

Yes you can - IT'S NOT PUREBRED- IT'S APPENDIX... PUREBRED GALLOWAYS MUST BE IN SECTION ONE OF THE LLINK I PROVIDED.

galloway breaders dont mix they stick to one of the 3 types and one only

No they dont I AGREE.

Attached is the herdbook rules for the American Galloway Breeders Assoc.

The Canadian Galloway Association is basically identical.

No it isn't PROVE TO ME HOW IT IS DIFFERENT

http://www.americangalloway.com/pdf/Herdbook.pdf

 

[WildRoseBeef]

you cant mix a solid and a white its not considered a purebread anymore

Yes you can - IT'S NOT PUREBRED- IT'S APPENDIX... PUREBRED GALLOWAYS MUST BE IN SECTION ONE OF THE LLINK I PROVIDED.

galloway breaders dont mix they stick to one of the 3 types and one only

No they dont I AGREE.

Attached is the herdbook rules for the American Galloway Breeders Assoc.

The Canadian Galloway Association is basically identical.

No it isn't PROVE TO ME HOW IT IS DIFFERENT

http://www.americangalloway.com/pdf/Herdbook.pdf

Well, for one the CGA doesn't allow belties with white elsewhere on their bodies except for a full belt. The AGBA isn't so stringent on that: "(b) Belted Galloways registered in Section II must have a belted color pattern and are black, red or dun with a complete white belt. A moderate amount of white elsewhere on the body is permissible." The CGA has a bit more in their rules about what kind of belt an animal has to have to be registrable, whether they go into the Appendix section or not. Belties can also be registrable if one parent is Galloway and the other is Belted, and if the resulting offspring is born with a full belt, not a partial one like Royd said below. (Yes, your welcome. )

Some different takes on rules for ineligible cattle, from the AGBA:

"Regardless of their color patterns, the following cattle are not eligible for registration in any Section or either Appendix of the Herd Book:
(i) any animal with a mixture of Belted Galloway and White Galloway ancestry."

From the CGA:

"5. The following cattle shall not be eligible for registration in the Herd Book of the Canadian Galloway Association:
(a) Galloways with Belted Galloway and/or White Galloway ancestry.
(b) Belted Galloways with White Galloway ancestry.
(c) White Galloways with Belted Galloway ancestry."


The rules of registration from the Canadian Galloway Association can be seen here: http://www.clrc.ca/15rules.pdf

ETA: KF it might do you some good to do some reading yourself before you start the "I'm right and you're wrong" "discussion"/argument up again, which as you should well know isn't exactly permitted on this forum.

 

[Royd Wood]

Thanks Karin

I have given up on breeding my belt cows with my solid bull as I have ended up with 3 heifers with incomplete belts which in Canada cant be registered - so did the obvious and got a Belted bull

 

[WildRoseBeef]

Thanks Karin

See my recently-edited post above yours.

 

[kfacres]

Well, for one the CGA doesn't allow belties with white elsewhere on their bodies except for a full belt. The AGBA isn't so stringent on that: "(b) Belted Galloways registered in Section II must have a belted color pattern and are black, red or dun with a complete white belt. A moderate amount of white elsewhere on the body is permissible." The CGA has a bit more in their rules about what kind of belt an animal has to have to be registrable, whether they go into the Appendix section or not. Belties can also be registrable if one parent is Galloway and the other is Belted, and if the resulting offspring is born with a full belt, not a partial one like Royd said below. (Yes, your welcome. )

Some different takes on rules for ineligible cattle, from the AGBA:

"Regardless of their color patterns, the following cattle are not eligible for registration in any Section or either Appendix of the Herd Book:
(i) any animal with a mixture of Belted Galloway and White Galloway ancestry."

From the CGA:

"5. The following cattle shall not be eligible for registration in the Herd Book of the Canadian Galloway Association:
(a) Galloways with Belted Galloway and/or White Galloway ancestry.
(b) Belted Galloways with White Galloway ancestry.
(c) White Galloways with Belted Galloway ancestry."


The rules of registration from the Canadian Galloway Association can be seen here: http://www.clrc.ca/15rules.pdf

ETA: KF it might do you some good to do some reading yourself before you start the "I'm right and you're wrong" "discussion"/argument up again, which as you should well know isn't exactly permitted on this forum.

so basically what you are saying, is that you cannot cross the colors and make register able calves--- which also just happened to be the exact same thing I talked about above.

 

[WildRoseBeef]

Maybe you should better explain what part of "colour" you're referring to.

 

[kfacres]

Maybe you should better explain what part of "colour" you're referring to.

I'm refering to the fact you cannot take belteds and breed them to fullbloods-- and register them. and the same goes for whites to fullbloods..

Even though they are all galloway, that ass'n has 3 different herdbooks, and you can't flip flop back and forth b/w them. once you're out of the fullblood herdbook, you're o ut.