Giving goats cydectin

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Excuse my grievous typo... :rolleyes:

Week before last, I saw two caprine vets in the same day. One, book learned - the other, experience backed up what he read in books and altered how he acted upon that reading. Guess which one killed my goat? Hmm.
 

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hs said:
Week before last, I saw two caprine vets in the same day. One, book learned - the other, experience backed up what he read in books and altered how he acted upon that reading. Guess which one killed my goat? Hmm.
I'll guess the book learned one with no experience.

Sorry about your goat, btw. Seriously...not sarcasm...fight though we may, I certainly don't like to hear about anybody losing goats.
 

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Helmstead, CM... IME, A happy animal is one that has access to a "normal" life, such as on pasture. My horse would be so depressed if she had to sit in a dry lot all the time, as I am sure my goats would be (I know, I've had them a week, but they are already fed up with their pen! That's how I can tell ;) )

Worms are a fact of life, you know most people have worms and they don't know about it right? I agree with Cm in the sense that an entirely parasite free herd is going to have a lower immunity to worms should they ever get infested, where treatment of said worms might be overall quite effective, but leave your goats body in shock from even a slight bout of anemia that they could very well die.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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Goat health is a whole package. Parasite treatment is just a small part.
I would be interested in what other health issues producers have that are not on a de-worming protocol. They might think it's the vaccines, minerals, Cocci, certain feed, genetics etc..... but infact could be a worm load that makes their body weaker. I have seen this first hand. Bought goats from these people.....had them die because they were so sick from anemia. These people are often afraid of wormers because their goats get sick when they use them. DUH! Wormy goats don't handle it well at first. They need more treatment than just wormer.

Lets face it not all of us live in the Swiss Alps where our goats are taken out to the mountain pastures everyday. (By a cute boy in shorts...where can I get one of those? :lol:) So we have to manage our heards according to our location and our goals. Some goats are only for lawn mowers. Some are very expensive show prospects. Some are family milkers. Each one of these goats will and should be managed differently.

***BTW: Kate's goats are not really on a total dry lot. There is alot of rock and trees. I think you are getting the wrong impression. The grass was nice and green, but her goats won't eat it. They are spoiled. They like exspensive hay.
 

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So does anyone treat pregnant does with Cydectin?
 

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NONONO! Only use safeguard or ivermec on preggers and nothing in the first 45 days.
Personally this is when I leave a goat alone. only worm if it is absolutley nesesary. sorry can't spell
 

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FlightsofFancy said:
Goat health is a whole package. Parasite treatment is just a small part.
I would be interested in what other health issues producers have that are not on a de-worming protocol. They might think it's the vaccines, minerals, Cocci, certain feed, genetics etc..... but infact could be a worm load that makes their body weaker. I have seen this first hand. Bought goats from these people.....had them die because they were so sick from anemia. These people are often afraid of wormers because their goats get sick when they use them. DUH! Wormy goats don't handle it well at first. They need more treatment than just wormer.

Lets face it not all of us live in the Swiss Alps where our goats are taken out to the mountain pastures everyday. (By a cute boy in shorts...where can I get one of those? :lol:) So we have to manage our heards according to our location and our goals. Some goats are only for lawn mowers. Some are very expensive show prospects. Some are family milkers. Each one of these goats will and should be managed differently.

***BTW: Kate's goats are not really on a total dry lot. There is alot of rock and trees. I think you are getting the wrong impression. The grass was nice and green, but her goats won't eat it. They are spoiled. They like exspensive hay.
I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't worm a goat, horse, dog, cat. Mine are all on worming scheduales. Last time the goats were wormed (not by us, but by previous owners the week before they came home to us) they were wormed with the Ivermec Injectible, the horse gets a rotational wormer (Ivermec, Safeguard, on and on...) and the dogs and cat all get Strongid T.
 

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In my capacity as moderator, I asked that the sniping in this thread quit, period. I'm giving a second warning now that you have called moderation into question.

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Now, would we like to continue discussing cydectin or not?
 

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I have cleaned up this thread in deference to the original poster. I sincerely hope this discussion will continue with civility.


Now, about cydectin.....
 

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I will add my insight.

I don't have goats. I know almost nothing about goats except the go ba-a-a-a REALLY cutely, the babies are adorable, I would love to have a couple some day and I have never met anyone here in person.

But I do know rudeness and line crossing when I see it and I concur with and support Speckled Hen's warning.

Thank you in advance for your full and cheerful cooperation. :D
 
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