Giving goats cydectin

[bj taylor]

first dosing DONE! you wouldn't believe the drama and stress - all from me! there were three of us doing the deed on 8 goats. one to catch 'em & after dosing run them out so we wouldn't get confused, one to draw up the stuff (that was me), and third guy was a friend who has had quite a lot of experience handling lifestock, to do the actual dosing. He saved us! hubby & I would have killed each other & we would have been found dead in the goat pen. this guy kept his cool, kept his humor, and it all went ok. well, almost ok. the adult doe got into something she should not have. I pray she will be ok. i'm too tired, stressed, and worked up to deal with it at the moment. she seems fine & I pray she's fine in the a.m.

ended up giving it as prescribed by vet. I will change my meds, but after a lot of reading, decided to go with this for now.

the injured doeling (another story) seems to be improving. thank God!

i'm ready for things to smooth out & get back to a happy healthy herd.

Thanks A Million for all your's advice & information. it helped tremendously!

 

[elevan]

 

[kowgirl]

I too am from North Texas and we have lost 5 kids and a newborn in the past 2 months! We have a ranch out in the country, but no house out there yet. On the property we have 4 donkeys and HAD 9 goats, 1 being a pregnant female. We just bought the goats around March 2014. The guy we bought them from, had a large herd in a dried pen (mostly dirt). He said he had already dosed them with wormer.

The first loss was the newborn. It looked as if it's backside wasn't fully formed, so there was nothing we could really do about that loss.

The next loss was a goat that had apparently been carried off by some sort of predator. We found a spot in our fence that looked as if something had dug under and dragged her away. We searched up and down the creek bed for any kind of sign! We found nothing but a goat bone :-(

First, you have to understand, we don't live out there and only go out and work the land on the weekends. My husband has been laying peers to build a peer and beam home and we are hoping to be moved out there by next Summer. Our neighbors help watch our property. The goats have a big pen (I would say, at least an acre). It had lush grass, was well cleaned, 2 water troughs and I even built them a shelter to protect them from rain and give them extra shade.

My husband went out there 2 weeks ago and found 1 goat dead and the other barely hanging on. He said he tried everything to keep that goat from dying, but I am sorry to say he did not succeed.

We had already given the goats a second dose of wormer since we brought them to the ranch. The seller said the goats were born around Christmas, so when we got them, they were about 4 months old. Our first thought was, they have worms! The goats that died, appeared to have diarrhea. It all happened with a blink of an eye! We noticed one of the other goats seemed lethargic and also had signs of diarrhea, so I rushed her to our livestock vet, hoping it would make a difference. He did a fecal test and said she had worms, but didn't think that's what was making her sick. She had some bloat and diagnosed her with Over Eating Disease. He gave her an injection of Cortisone and Tribessen and also gave me 7 additional syringes of Tribessen to giver her every day. Then he gave me CDT vaccines for the other 4 goats.

I took her back to the ranch and wrangled the other goats to give them the vaccination. For the next 5 days I drove 45 min. each way to give this sweet girl her syringe. The bloat was gone and she was walking around making noise, like she used to. I thought Hallelujah, we made it over the hump. Yesterday I went up to dose her and she was lying on the ground "crying" and the diarrhea was back. I immediately grabbed her, but her in the back of my Tahoe and set the speed record for getting her back to the vet. This time I saw the vet's son (who is also a vet). I watched her lay motionless on the exam table, trying to comfort her while thinking, where in the he** is the doctor. When he finally came in, he said it was the worms causing her to be anemic and unable to get up. He said she didn't appear bloated or dehydrated. He gave her 3cc's of Cydectin, and said, "I think she's gonna be ok". He also gave me a huge syringe of Tribessen to keep her on for the diarrhea. He gave me a bottle of Cydectin to go back and dose the other goats.

This afternoon, I drove out there to give her the medication, and I found her dead on the ground! I was heartbroken. I have checked the other goats, and they don't show any signs..... white eye lids, diarrhea, lethargy, and they are eating and drinking, but this sickness hits so dang fast, I'm worried!

I apologize for the long story, but I just found your website and you all seem so knowledgeable! I am not a complete novice to goats. We had a small heard several years ago, but it's been awhile since we've had goats again. We wormed and cared for the last goats, the same way and we never lost any to any sort of illness.

I appreciate any feedback from ya'll. I have to re-dose the goats I have left with the other half of their Cydectin the vet gave me in 2 weeks. I read that one member here rotates their herd with Cydectin, Valbazen, and Ivermec. It's a little difficult for us, since we don't live out there yet, but I really do try and care for them!

Why do young kids get worms, even after they've been given multiple doses of wormer? I went to the vet today and spoke to a technician there and she said they are having a terrible season with worms! That several people came in Friday who had lost multiple goats from it. It has been awful hot here lately, but we do try to keep things clean.

Thanks, Tina

 

[jodief100]

You might want to start your own thread.
If they are presenting with diarrhea, it is more than just worms. Worms almost never cause diarrhea. Since it is just kids that are having issues, I would bet it is Coccidiosis I would be giving Sulmet or Di Methox (injectable given orally) in addition to the cydectin.

The biggest problem I see in your management is you are not rotating them. Once the browse gets eaten down to 6" or less (average, they don't eat evenly like sheep) they need to be moved. Even of they haven't eaten it down, I try to move mine very 2 weeks at most. Keeping things clean helps but goats should never be eating close to the ground no matter how clean it is.

Your wormers may not be working. In a lot of places, years of regular and unwarranted worming has caused the worms to become resistant. Pasture rotation, worming at need and not on schedule (learn FAMACHA) and NOT rotating wormers (use one that works until it no longer does) is are the keys to parasite management.

I am sorry you are having this trouble. Heat and humidity are going to bring out the parasites.