Green Acres Farm - LA

[babsbag]

I used to have one buck...then two...then three...now 6. The thing is I have one Alpine for my standard Alpines, one LaMancha for my standard LMs. Then came minis...one Nigi to make minis. One mini buckling retained to breed most of the mini Alpine doelings. One mini Alpine retained to breed ONE mini doeling (sister of the other buckling). Now one more ND buckling to hopefully make me some mini bucklings that aren't related to any of kids I kept last year or this year.

It gets complicated.

 

[OneFineAcre]

I was looking back to the sire of the doeling I will (hopefully) get, and the sire's dam didn't seem too good, as far as I could tell. I didn't find any pics of her, but I did find this:

http://adgagenetics.org/PedigreePrint.aspx?RegNumber=D001653983

Any expert opinions?

I looked back at your first post and the doe you were talking about getting
That's not the Sire"s dam

 

[babsbag]

Do you mean the doeling you have reserved?

The sire's dam's LA was only 81...

 

[OneFineAcre]

Do you mean the doeling you have reserved?

The sire's dam's LA was only 81...

Ok
I looked back through the whole thread
No
81 ++++ is not a good score
She was a 2 yo probably a FF
I would want to see how she looked now if she hasn't been appraised since then
You can drive yourself crazy looking at pedigrees

 

[Fullhousefarm]

Sorry, late to this thread even through @OneFineAcre tried to summon me!

I do know Beverly at M&M, but not well. She has one of our milk stands and I've seen her at a few shows and she's in the Florida Nigerian Dwarf Club. I think she's relatively new to goats, but has goats from nice farms.

There are lots of nice Nigerians in FL/GA. How far are you willing to drive? I know that Hidden Palms has a bunch of nice bred does for sale- all LA'd and on milk test. She had a buck escape and breed 17 (yes! confirmed by blood test) in one night.

Tanya at TLC Farms has very nice goats. (Just south of Tampa) we know her very well and she'd be honest with you about her opinion on the quality of a buck. She's been in it longer than many around here and has really nice goats from Old South, Little Tots, and others. Our first Nigerian was a 3 month doeling from her and she's 4 now I'd buy her several times over again.

You're welcome to PM me if you want some more names of people close.

 

[sadieml]

I am following along with interest. I am totally stupid when it comes to breeding, even though I have read a lot on it. I go by what I see, and some of the quality names I recognize, but since I'm only interested in milk for my family, I guess that's okay. In SC, you have to be licensed to give away milk or cheese, even to family, ANYONE not in your household. I don't know if I want the extra hassle. My older Sis and her daughter were looking forward to fresh goat milk in a year or so, but I don't know... To be honest, I don't know how intrusive they are, but we're very reserved and I don't want one of those "DHEC" types poking around too much. Maybe I'll check into it just to see...

 

[Green Acres Farm]

I am following along with interest. I am totally stupid when it comes to breeding, even though I have read a lot on it. I go by what I see, and some of the quality names I recognize, but since I'm only interested in milk for my family, I guess that's okay. In SC, you have to be licensed to give away milk or cheese, even to family, ANYONE not in your household. I don't know if I want the extra hassle. My older Sis and her daughter were looking forward to fresh goat milk in a year or so, but I don't know... To be honest, I don't know how intrusive they are, but we're very reserved and I don't want one of those "DHEC" types poking around too much. Maybe I'll check into it just to see...

Here, you can sell raw milk, but labeled for animal consumption only, and you have to have a license I'm pretty sure. We have some excess milk, but not a whole lot, so selling isn't something we're looking into right now- it just goes to the happy dogs.

ETA: I am only milking 2, a Saanen and a Nigerian Dwarf.

 

[NH homesteader]

Excess milk? No way... That's just time to make ice cream! Haha, having other farm critters helps matters. Our pigs LOVE whey and if they ever get milk they start a fight over it .

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I was looking back to the sire of the doeling I will (hopefully) get, and the sire's dam didn't seem too good, as far as I could tell. I didn't find any pics of her, but I did find this:

http://adgagenetics.org/PedigreePrint.aspx?RegNumber=D001653983

Any expert opinions?

@Green Acres Farm
I was able to sit down and look at the pedigree.
No, she didn't score well. I'd like to see her now though.

Did you look at this does' sire and dam? The doe you posted it J-NELS LY MO MO.
Her sire is GCH CHENANGO-HILLS LYSANDER who LA'd @ a 90 EEV
Her dam is SGCH J-NELS ER DUMPLIN who LA'd @ 90 VEEE

So just because she had a low appraisal as a 2 year old doesn't make her a bad doe.

That doe is a full sister to J-NELS LY SPATZLE.
Spatzle went on to be the 2015 ADGA National show
Nigerian Dwarf reserve Grand Champion.
Spatzle was only appraised once as a 2 year old and got an 86 V+VV.

But, we all know if you breed 2 good animals it doesn't always mean the kids will be good. Goats like to difficult LOL

I don't know if you saw our Nubian buckling. I posted this on the thread-
His sire is CH Frog Flat Long Lanky Nathaniel who appraised @ 91EEE
His Dam is Frog Flat B&T Creamy Ingles 90VEEE
Ingles dam LA'd @ 81 ++++ as a 2 year old.
But that doe that LA'd @ 81 produced a kid that LA'd @ 90.
Ingles sire wasn't LA'd but her Sire's Dam was LA'd @ 90 VEEE and has her SGCH.

So like the others said, you can make yourself crazy looking at pedigrees. Especially when you aren't familiar with the goats you are looking at. Just something to think about

I think you should do both

 

[babsbag]

She had a buck escape and breed 17 (yes! confirmed by blood test) in one night.

Hope that was the buck they intended to use. I am as I have 5 slated for a lute injection in the next 10 days. 17...one busy boy. And how to you get that many does to cycle at one time.? Going to be a busy week in the kidding barn in a few months.