Green Acres Farm - LA

[Mini Horses]

sadieml -- In VA we can sell raw as "PET use". Also, we can do herd shares and no one has ever been investigated that I know. Several cattle & goat farmers do this. Buy into the goat/herd and it's your own milk. People pay a buy-in + a monthly fee for care/feeding, pick up own milk. NO license, no inspections.

So, lute is what you use for does? We always used for surprise breedings on the horses, once about 10 days out. Brought them into some heavy sweats, etc. No other issue, just no foal. Is that same with the goats? Never had to use for goats but, good to know. Sometimes those bucks like the young ones.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

We have used the lute with no issues. First time we had to use it was when a ND doe got in with the kiko meat bucks. Of course she got bred by every buck 'cept the ND.

The other times someone left the gate open and a young buckling got to several of the does... Sigh.

I bought a whole bottle from our vet

 

[babsbag]

I have used it before, but not 5 in one year. I am trying very very hard to wait until Nov. but I had a very rambunctious mini Alpine in with my does and he was definitely old enough and more than eager. He has been removed but not before he had his way with at least two does. A few days later I came home and found two does in a pen with another mini...And #5 I am just covering my bases as I *think* she got bred too.

 

[NH homesteader]

Um sorry.... What is a lute?

 

[babsbag]

It is Lutalyse and it is a hormone (I think) injection that will end the pregnancy in goats and other animals. In goats it is given 14 days after the breeding. The goat will go back into heat about three days later. It is also used to synchronize breeding cycles, usually used when doing AI.

 

[Southern by choice]

@Green Acres Farm
I was able to sit down and look at the pedigree.
No, she didn't score well. I'd like to see her now though.

Did you look at this does' sire and dam? The doe you posted it J-NELS LY MO MO.
Her sire is GCH CHENANGO-HILLS LYSANDER who LA'd @ a 90 EEV
Her dam is SGCH J-NELS ER DUMPLIN who LA'd @ 90 VEEE

So just because she had a low appraisal as a 2 year old doesn't make her a bad doe.

That doe is a full sister to J-NELS LY SPATZLE.
Spatzle went on to be the 2015 ADGA National show
Nigerian Dwarf reserve Grand Champion.
Spatzle was only appraised once as a 2 year old and got an 86 V+VV.

But, we all know if you breed 2 good animals it doesn't always mean the kids will be good. Goats like to difficult LOL

I don't know if you saw our Nubian buckling. I posted this on the thread-
His sire is CH Frog Flat Long Lanky Nathaniel who appraised @ 91EEE
His Dam is Frog Flat B&T Creamy Ingles 90VEEE
Ingles dam LA'd @ 81 ++++ as a 2 year old.
But that doe that LA'd @ 81 produced a kid that LA'd @ 90.
Ingles sire wasn't LA'd but her Sire's Dam was LA'd @ 90 VEEE and has her SGCH.

So like the others said, you can make yourself crazy looking at pedigrees. Especially when you aren't familiar with the goats you are looking at. Just something to think about

I think you should do both

Good post!
Some animals do time more time and some animals maynever appraise real well but can make great brood does.

 

[Fullhousefarm]

Hope that was the buck they intended to use. I am as I have 5 slated for a lute injection in the next 10 days. 17...one busy boy. And how to you get that many does to cycle at one time.? Going to be a busy week in the kidding barn in a few months.

He is her favorite buck- and she has several very nice ones! And it was the night she got back from Nationals- so she definitely did not do anything to get them to cycle at once. She said she could have Luted them, but none were too young or too related so she decided to let it be.

She said he was ready for more when his "what-what" woke her up the next morning.

 

[Green Acres Farm]

@Fullhousefarm, @OneFineAcre, how much does a certificate of veterinary inspection and scrapie premise number usually cost?

 

[NH homesteader]

I am also curious. I was looking at the paperwork for one of my does going.... OK... What's this all mean?

 

[OneFineAcre]

@Fullhousefarm, @OneFineAcre, how much does a certificate of veterinary inspection and scrapie premise number usually cost?

The vet cert depends on the vet
Scrapies premise ID doesn't cost anything I don't believe