HELP!! Kid with a lump... is it CL?

[jcooke1]

I am a very worried new goat owner and I am hoping all of you wonderful experts can give me your advice. My kid is about 4-5 months old and she has this lump just below her jaw line and I am worried. I am planning on taking her to the vets this weekend because I don't think I have any other choice, but I was hoping someone might have a miracle idea that it is not CL and be able to put my mind at ease. The lump seems firm, but it does not seem to bother her and all other habits are normal.

 

[helmstead]

Not all lumps are CL. Won't know for sure unless you have the exude tested.

 

[elevan]

Could also be:

Milk Goiter

Iodine Deficiency

 

[helmstead]

Or, more simply, a hard piece of hay can pierce the esophagus and cause an abscess - had two of those in my time so far. GROSS to lance and clean, esp. when the vet finds the offending piece of hay

 

[elevan]

Yep...even more examples of what a lump could be other than CL.

You could also be looking at a bee sting...

If you're worried about it being CL you need to do the test.

 

[Roll farms]

Looks more like a milk goiter to me, but the only way to *know* is have a vet check them out.

Are her eyelids pale at all?

I've never seen a CL lump in that location or get that...wide, generally they are more round, like a small golf ball. Also, the incubation is 3-6 mos so he's a bit young to have a CL lump that large.

 

[jcooke1]

Could also be:

Milk Goiter

Iodine Deficiency

Either one of these sound like they could possibly fit her except it is a hard lump and the link to milk goiter says that the lumps are usually "soft swellings". Would you suggest the iodine treatment to see if the lump shrinks? Another thing that just dawned on me was that approx. two weeks ago we carried the kids up into the yard but she was being a butt and wouldn't let us catch her. So we left her in their 14'x14'(approx) pin and allowed her to scream for awhile, finally calmed her down then snatched her up to place her with the other kids. By this time though the poor things voice became a little hoarse. I am curious could all of that screaming inflamed her glands causing the lump to form? If that is a possibility any suggestions to help heal her "sore throat"?

 

[jcooke1]

Looks more like a milk goiter to me, but the only way to *know* is have a vet check them out.

Are her eyelids pale at all?

I've never seen a CL lump in that location or get that...wide, generally they are more round, like a small golf ball. Also, the incubation is 3-6 mos so he's a bit young to have a CL lump that large.

Do kids still get milk goiter even though they have been weaned for about 2 months?

I have not looked at her eyelids yet. This is probably a very stupid question I am sure and the answer seems very obvious but I just want to check, when looking at eyelids, you flip it up and look at the underside, correct? Two weeks ago I had fecals ran for worms and cocci and both came up negative on all 4 kids.

 

[elevan]

Could also be:

Milk Goiter

Iodine Deficiency

Either one of these sound like they could possibly fit her. She is one of four of our kids roughly around the same age but she does seem to have signs that she is growing faster, for example her horns are larger then the other 3, one of which is her twins. Would you suggest the iodine treatment to see if the lump shrinks? Another thing that just dawned on me was that approx. two weeks ago we carried the kids up into the yard but she was being a butt and wouldn't let us catch her. So we left her in their 14'x14'(approx) pin and allowed her to scream for awhile, finally calmed her down then snatched her up to place her with the other kids. By this time though the poor things voice became a little hoarse. I am curious could all of that screaming inflamed her glands causing the lump to form? If that is a possibility any suggestions to help heal her "sore throat"?

IDK if you could equate the screaming and hoarshness to this or not... Stranger things have happened I guess. When I have a sore throat due to overuse I gargle with salt water and then take a shot of olive oil. I really don't know how you'd convert that to a goat either...

If you have a vet that sees goats then I would take it to them. If you don't them I would choose the "diagnosis" that I thought best fit and then try the treatment.

It seems to me that the painted iodine would be the simplest solution to try.

On checking the eye lids (go to page 26)

 

[Roll farms]

I've read milk goiter won't go away until about 6 mos. Bullitt (our buckling) has one and he's 4.25 mos old. I'm not worrying about it.
I know his isn't CL or iodine def....they get kelp in their mineral.