Help! Vet's Out til Mon - What am I dealing with?!? (VET UPDATE pg8)

[Roll farms]

I removed the pizzle from a Nubian buck several years ago. I couldn't get a vet out, it was a Friday night, and I had to do something.
The pizzle is sort of like a bottleneck...it's possible for them to block there, like it is in the S curve.
It may not be as likely, but very possible. As soon as we cut Hurri's off, pee started flowing and he looked most relieved.

(Really...goat penii design leaves a lot to be desired, as far as preventing UC to begin with....)

I had also read that 'fruit fresh' will work in a pinch to help w/ urinary calculi. It's carried in grocery stores in the food preservation section.

I saved the document w/ the dosage on it, I dissolved 2 T of fruit fresh in 2 oz of water and drenched him w/ it.
I can't find the old link I had found back then, but here is one that explains why FF works.

http://thegoatspot.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14440&start=0

We drenched him w/ it twice (once the night we cut his pizzle off, once the next morning) and started him on AC on the following Monday.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I have read the Fresh Fruit thing to. I have no idea why...but Ive heard that it works in a pinch. Good thinking Roll...its something you can get at store right away.

http://www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6465

Heres another thread...it may help?

 

[elevan]

I have Fresh Fruit in my cabinet right now!!!

I'm going out to give him a drench of that now.

Thanks Roll!


And ksalvagno - thanks for the link on cmjust's case - it seemed like a long fought battle but I'm glad there's hope!

 

[elevan]

I just gave him 2 Tbsp of Fruit Fresh...I used less water than you said Roll because he's such a small guy and I don't want to add too much fluid to his system if he's retaining in the bladder. I mixed just enough to turn the FF liquid, then drenched.

My DH reminded me that sometimes when there's a holiday in the week the vet will be open on Saturday...since Monday was President's Day and they were closed and they closed today for the snowstorm that hit us....I'm hoping that they may be open tomorrow I'll call them first thing to see.

He's drinking, eating hay and acting normal right now. I have not been able to catch him pee'ing though :/

 

[Roll farms]

Probably wouldn't hurt to give him some probiotics, too...might get an upset tummy.

Yeah, Hurricane was a full grown Nubian buck...I wasn't taking your guy's size into account...I'd imagine 1 T dissolved would be plenty if you dose him again.

Good luck!

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Curious how he is this morning...when you get a chance..please update.

Thinking of him this am!! Im so glad Roll thought of that!! I hope it helped!!

 

[elevan]

We didn't snip the pizzle...yet...

Because when we visited him very early he peed a good stream!! No dribbles, no strain. His area is less red and less swollen.

I'm going to do another Fruit Fresh drench on him later this morning.

He also got some probios last night.

This scare has done it for me - my boys will no longer receive any grain (even though they have AC in it and they get less than a little). I also think since I have a well and the water is not softened that I'll have it tested to see what trace is in it. If it looks to be part of a problem my boys will get bottled water

So, this morning Snickers is doing great! I'll continue the FF drench until Monday and see what the vet has to say when they come in.

Roll - How often should I drench? Twice a day? Or more often?

Thanks everyone!

 

[Roll farms]

I agree, don't snip the pizzle unless he's just NOT peeing at all. If you saw him whizzing, I wouldn't.

Also, we don't *know* for sure he has UC...it's just a best guess.

I'm not so sure I'd stop giving him / your boys grain...maybe just add AC to his water a couple times a week. Some bucks have tighter S curves than others and are just more prone.

We top dress our buck's feed w/ 1/4tsp Amm. Chloride every day, and their feed has AC in it...and we have very hard water.

I would drench him 2x today, 1x tomorrow, and then w/ AC 1x a day for a week, to help dissolve any leftovers.

Good luck!

 

[elevan]

Thank you Roll.

I'll consider grain with AC top dressing or adding to their water.

Let's consider that this isn't UC...what if it's an infection? Should I start him on PenG or Oxytet? To be safe, since the vet won't be available till Monday. It seems like such a long time for such a little guy to have a bug running rampant in him without treatment if that's what it is instead of UC...

I just want to do the best for him (and all my boys).

Again...there's no fever...but I don't always have a fever when I have a UTI....that's why I'm asking about anibiotics...

 

[helmstead]

Yippee for the pee LOL

Good job! This board is great...reminds me daily that you never stop learning, either. I'll have to get some FF in my medicine cabinet 'just in case'.

Hope he continues to improve!