How do you get a 2,000 lb bull in a trailer?

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Hey, in answer to your question ..... "how do you"
VERY CAREFULLY!!!

Sorry, couldn't resist. The only way I have done it, is in quarters. (the bull in quarters, that is)
 

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One other thing---I've been raising cattle for nearly 60 years now, and it's my opinion that they are color blind. Red means nothing to them as far as I can tell, so a red bucket or shirt is meaningless. Of course, that's just my humble opinion. I'm sure that there are some who will disagree, but if you want, I'll wear a red Santa suit and chase bulls all day long. lol!
Color blind does not mean they can not learn to distinguish between the subtle shadings involved in different colors of black, white and grey.

I used red as a color but could just as well have used yellow. Using the same color each time means they can associate that particular shade as a food receptacle.

I have trained my sheep and bottle calf to recognize different colors of receptacles. I use a red bucket for watering. They don't really respond to this bucket and so do not get in my way when I am carrying a sloshing 5 gal. bucket across uneven terrain.

I use a green bucket for grain or treats.....I get MOBBED while carrying the green bucket! These buckets are the same shape and size, BTW. They can spot the green bucket from an acre away and come thundering out of the orchard to investigate the green bucket.

If I want them to go where I want, I merely place the green bucket in that pen, trailer, etc. They are more than eager to go there. If I place the red bucket there, they could care less.

I have a blue bucket that carries minerals and salt. It gets a mild reaction but not much, since they have this free choice already.

I guess I have the only color sensitive livestock on the planet! ;)
 

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Beekissed said:
One other thing---I've been raising cattle for nearly 60 years now, and it's my opinion that they are color blind. Red means nothing to them as far as I can tell, so a red bucket or shirt is meaningless. Of course, that's just my humble opinion. I'm sure that there are some who will disagree, but if you want, I'll wear a red Santa suit and chase bulls all day long. lol!
Color blind does not mean they can not learn to distinguish between the subtle shadings involved in different colors of black, white and grey.

I used red as a color but could just as well have used yellow. Using the same color each time means they can associate that particular shade as a food receptacle.

I have trained my sheep and bottle calf to recognize different colors of receptacles. I use a red bucket for watering. They don't really respond to this bucket and so do not get in my way when I am carrying a sloshing 5 gal. bucket across uneven terrain.

I use a green bucket for grain or treats.....I get MOBBED while carrying the green bucket! These buckets are the same shape and size, BTW. They can spot the green bucket from an acre away and come thundering out of the orchard to investigate the green bucket.

If I want them to go where I want, I merely place the green bucket in that pen, trailer, etc. They are more than eager to go there. If I place the red bucket there, they could care less.

I have a blue bucket that carries minerals and salt. It gets a mild reaction but not much, since they have this free choice already.

I guess I have the only color sensitive livestock on the planet! ;)
Well, I think I have to agree with you on the aspect of training animals to color shades. I am sure thats how they do it with training the bullfight bulls. Even though I think they are "color blind", I assume they do see in shades, as people who are coor blind see colors too. Neat subject.......
 

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Re: Color blind cattle from wikipedia -


A common misconception about cattle (particularly bulls) is that they are enraged by the color red (something provocative is often said to be "like a red flag to a bull"). This is incorrect, as cattle are red-green color-blind.[31][32] The myth arose from the use of red capes in the sport of bullfighting; in fact, two different capes are used. The capote is a large, flowing cape that is magenta and yellow. The more famous muleta is the smaller, red cape, used exclusively for the final, fatal segment of the fight. It is not the color of the cape that angers the bull, but rather the movement of the fabric that irritates the bull and incites it to charge.

Although cattle cannot distinguish red from green, they do have two kinds of color receptors in the cone cells in their retinas. Thus they are dichromatic, the same as most other mammals (including dogs, cats, horses and up to ten percent of male humans). They are able to distinguish some colors, particularly blue from yellow, in the same way as most other mammals.[33][34]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle
 

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Huh, see......this is a neat subject. still doesn't help you with your getting the bull on trailer problem, but neat none-the-less. :thumbsup
 

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I've been thinking about this. The guy in charge of this mess doesn't seem to be going for my idea since the trailer still isn't parked in the pasture. So, I was thinking. I will get my camera charged up so I can take video of whatever happens. When the trailer gets here on Saturday (if it does), I'm gonna throw a bale of alfalfa and a case of beer (jhm47's idea) in that trailer and see what goes in first. :lol: If neither goes into that trailer, I'm gonna go in the trailer, get comfortable on the bale of alfalfa, drink a few beers and work on plan C.

But if I catch the cowboys first, how much do you think they will fetch at auction? Maybe I should throw some steaks in there to fatten them up before we get to auction.

But seriously, that bull needs to go. I'm getting attached to him. I've started running my horses with him out of desperation for pasture. Plus I'm trying to make sure the bull doesn't start tearing down fence line (he seems happy when my horses are with him & happier when the other neighbor's cows come into the opposite pasture to graze). So far, so good. However, when I call the horses in at night, I get him first; he comes trotting up. Then I gotta maneuver things so that only the horses come through the gate. It makes me pretty nervous but the bull patiently waits for me to get the horses fed and for me to come back to him with his grain. I'm really not a fan of this situation and I'm proceeding with caution. Well, counting down the days 'til Saturday. I wonder if he will be gone by then?
 
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