I'm another victim.....please help if you can!

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http://www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10922 see if this helps, I haven't run the powdered corid numbers for a while. I can rerun the numbers if you need me two. Roll should also know it.

as far as the kinder, That picture is hard to tell, but she does look big in the belly. I would need a picture of her standing up, of her girl parts and udder.
LIke this.

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NYRIR said:
Ok, I'll look for the better hay...also, Rolls....what makes you think she is a cross? Is it just the size?


And what dose of Corid powder? And for how long?Do I do that along with the Valbazen or after?
Yes, you can treat at the same time.
 

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You would be better off finding alfalfa or alfalfa mix hay. 2nd cutting or 3rd cutting. You want to make sure that your total feed/hay intake is at least 2:1 calcium to phosphorus and I personally like to see more like 2.5-3:1 calcium to phosphorus.

Definitely do the fecals.

If there is any Alpine in that little one, it certainly isn't pure. Wouldn't be surprised if she was an Alpine/Pygmy cross but really it could be anything with Pygmy if the buck was a Pygmy.

Are you drying up totally the Nubian? If you are, I wouldn't give any grain until she is dry. That will help her dry up faster. Then just give the 1 cup you are giving the rest.
 

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Ok, I got the pics....here she is in a not so sweet pose :lol:

Bailey's behind take one!
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And a top view....
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Her teats....nothing there right?
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And a total shot....
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I should add that in the last week or so she has become more moody...more BOSSY with the younger ones as well....she eats a LOT!
So, what do you think? Is she just fat? Or is she going to kid tomorrow??
 

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ksalvagno said:
You would be better off finding alfalfa or alfalfa mix hay. 2nd cutting or 3rd cutting. You want to make sure that your total feed/hay intake is at least 2:1 calcium to phosphorus and I personally like to see more like 2.5-3:1 calcium to phosphorus.

Definitely do the fecals.

If there is any Alpine in that little one, it certainly isn't pure. Wouldn't be surprised if she was an Alpine/Pygmy cross but really it could be anything with Pygmy if the buck was a Pygmy.

Are you drying up totally the Nubian? If you are, I wouldn't give any grain until she is dry. That will help her dry up faster. Then just give the 1 cup you are giving the rest.
I am going to let her dry up now,yes since she has been through enough! I plan to try and get her bred this year....will my young boys be able to accomplish this? Or should I look for a stud for her?
 

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Definitely no udder development. So she probably wouldn't be delivering soon.

You can try your boys. I can't remember how old they are.
 

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well, the last time she was with a buck to my knowledge is the end of April.....
 

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NYRIR said:
well, the last time she was with a buck to my knowledge is the end of April.....
Being lazy, did you say she has kidded before? I was leaning towards looking pregnant, but not due for 8 to 10 weeks. then Ilook at the last picture of her and think she is not pregnant and just fat with a big rumen from being the boss in the herd.
she does not look 4 months pregnant to me. Has she been around any other bucklings this summer? Younger bucklings that you may have underestimated their ability to breed a doe?
 

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That would put her at the end of September to deliver. So she should start developing an udder if she is pregnant.
 

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No, she has been getting progressively fatter for a couple of weeks now....the bucklings are 3 months old and have been here for 2 weeks and have never mounted her...they are all scared of her....she is actually not the head of the herd, Heidi is but she is not mean about it. She's very gentle but lets them know she is boss when needed.

I bought her the last weekend in April....the people told me she was due to come in heat in a couple of days they THOUGHT, but that she had been running with bucks and may be pregnant. I figure if she got pregnant right before (last case scenario)I got her....the LATEST would be October...right? Right now would be roughly 126 days....or so....

When does the udder start developing?

ETA: the bucks are getting separated today; actually as we speak....the DH and my DS are putting up the girls fencing today......so the boys will be alone and the girls will be alone.... I'm so excited to give them their own areas! :weee
 
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