NH homesteader
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Does low temp pasteurization work for these diseases or is 165 better?
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Herd Master
I can say the same.
When I really started educating myself there was no way I could allow my children to have raw milk.
“People should be able to buy raw milk if they want to, but we shouldn’t turn a blind eye to some of the food safety concerns.”
Michael Pollan, Author
The Omnivore’s Dilemma
Green Acres Farm
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I'm NOT saying you're wrong in any way, but this is just my (current) opinion on it for us:
A lot more people have gotten sick and dies from raw fruits and vegetables than raw milk. Should we stop eating them? Raw milk DOES have a lot of benefits and definitely a very good immune system boost to protect against diseases. It is very rare for someone to get sick from raw milk. Getting sick from other things we aren't going to stop is a MUCH bigger risk.
Here is a list of zootonic diseases potentially transmitted in raw goat milk:
Salmonella, E. Coli, Campylobacteriosis, Cryptosporidiosis, and Yersisiniosis are caused by FECAL contamination in the milk. That is why I sweep/ bleach 2× a day and try to clean the udder/ teats really well and squirt out first bit of milk to be safe.
Diseases potentially secreted milk:
Listeriosis can be found from fecal contamination or milk. I guess all I can say is I try to keep things clean and don't feeds moldy or contaminated feed or hay.
Brucellosis and TB- it is very rare and we have no symptoms. I know, we should still test, just saying.
CL- negative
Q fever- excreted in milk, urine, and feces. Very rare and if we had it, then we would get it without drinking the raw milk...
Staph food poisoning- caused from mastitis. I use mastitis indicator cards often and they always come back normal. I try to a good job of preventing mastitis.
Toxoplasmosis- keep cats away
Louping ill- carried by ticks. Have not seen ticks on goats I milk and I am with them/ touching them all the time. I would think if we had ticks carrying that around here we would be told to vaccinate for it.
Meliodiosis- not found anywhere near where I am.
Leptospiriosis- extremely rare. Only 27 cases is the US in 2015.
Cryptococcosis- all I can say is I don't think we have it and if we do, we'd be in trouble even if we didn't drink the milk.
Let me know if this list is not complete or if anything is inaccurate. I got the list from Goat Medicine. This milk is for our family and we let people know who come to come for dinner or something that it is raw and have pasteurized it for them. I have given it to one close family who are very close friends and they have watched me milk and handle the milk and they want it raw.
A lot more people have gotten sick and dies from raw fruits and vegetables than raw milk. Should we stop eating them? Raw milk DOES have a lot of benefits and definitely a very good immune system boost to protect against diseases. It is very rare for someone to get sick from raw milk. Getting sick from other things we aren't going to stop is a MUCH bigger risk.
Here is a list of zootonic diseases potentially transmitted in raw goat milk:
Salmonella, E. Coli, Campylobacteriosis, Cryptosporidiosis, and Yersisiniosis are caused by FECAL contamination in the milk. That is why I sweep/ bleach 2× a day and try to clean the udder/ teats really well and squirt out first bit of milk to be safe.
Diseases potentially secreted milk:
Listeriosis can be found from fecal contamination or milk. I guess all I can say is I try to keep things clean and don't feeds moldy or contaminated feed or hay.
Brucellosis and TB- it is very rare and we have no symptoms. I know, we should still test, just saying.
CL- negative
Q fever- excreted in milk, urine, and feces. Very rare and if we had it, then we would get it without drinking the raw milk...
Staph food poisoning- caused from mastitis. I use mastitis indicator cards often and they always come back normal. I try to a good job of preventing mastitis.
Toxoplasmosis- keep cats away
Louping ill- carried by ticks. Have not seen ticks on goats I milk and I am with them/ touching them all the time. I would think if we had ticks carrying that around here we would be told to vaccinate for it.
Meliodiosis- not found anywhere near where I am.
Leptospiriosis- extremely rare. Only 27 cases is the US in 2015.
Cryptococcosis- all I can say is I don't think we have it and if we do, we'd be in trouble even if we didn't drink the milk.
Let me know if this list is not complete or if anything is inaccurate. I got the list from Goat Medicine. This milk is for our family and we let people know who come to come for dinner or something that it is raw and have pasteurized it for them. I have given it to one close family who are very close friends and they have watched me milk and handle the milk and they want it raw.
NH homesteader
Herd Master
People have every right to drink raw milk. No, it's not likely that any of those things will happen. I just won't do it because IF it did, it's way beyond a mild case of food poisoning. The thing that bothers me is when people aren't educated about their decision. So, if after doing all the research you and your famous are comfortable drinking raw milk, kudos to you. You know the risks. I did the research and feel the risks are too much for my family.
Green Acres Farm
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I'm not trying to turn this into a big debate, I just wanted to say my opinion on it which may change.
Green Acres Farm
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WADDL does not offer brucellosis testing. PAVL does. Will see vet tomorrow and can ask about TB testing.
NH homesteader
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I wasn't either. I was trying to emphasize that it's your decision and no one here is going to tell you that it's wrong for your family it's up to you!
Green Acres Farm
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Oh, I know, I was saying that because I didn't want to be the one sounding argumentive.
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Ya'll just hug it out, lol! It's all good! 
Green Acres Farm
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Well, I've seen what some disagreements have turned into here with both sides having legitimate reasons for their point and people taking offense... Not saying people are doing that now (did it againYa'll just hug it out, lol! It's all good!
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