Interlocking rubber mats on sleeping benches?

[NH homesteader]

No it is hard online because people don't have facial expressions and tone of voice to help convey their message. People will come across much differently in writing than in person. Sometimes I re-read things I've written and think wow, I was trying to be nice but I sound like a jerk! Lol!

 

[babsbag]

http://waddl.vetmed.wsu.edu/goat-sheep-testing-schedule

WADDL does does test for Brucella, which causes Brucellosis.

Brucellosis was called Undulent fever years back and people would die from it, also from Bovine TB. Louis Pasteur saved a lot of lives when he introduced pasteurization. Some states require testing for those diseases for all dairies, whether you are going to sell raw milk or not, CA is one of them.

I am not sure about low temp pasteurization as I have a pasteurizer that does all of the work for me. The temp. of the milk at the top of the container is 156-159. One of these days soon I need to start studying for my pasteurizer operator permit; really hoping I don't have to memorize a bunch of stuff and that it is all common sense. My brain doesn't retain stuff like it used to.

 

[Southern by choice]

I think it is important to look at where your info comes from. Raw milk sites are very biased. There was actually an article about pasteurized dairy products that had made people sick and it was horrible, sad, and repulsive... raw milk advocates- one after another were laughing and making horrific comments about those that had gotten sick.

There are many myths to the whole organic and raw foods.
There are some that believe "they are pasture raised" so their milk is safe.
Organically grown veggies are safer...

Both the above statements are wrong but these are the things that get out there and people believe. Many don't realize if they use their great poop compost from their goats, chickens etc they increase their risk! It's POOP

I think Kylee Young's parents nailed it. Their video is the best I have seen. They are very balanced and believe people should have the right to choose! If you watch the 12 minute video they explain their views, their reasons, why raw, what happened, where they are now and ultimately at the end of the video they talk about what we are.

They put it in a great way too. At the 7 minute marker he tells HOW it happened, and how everything was clean... it was a FREAK thing... but that one small freak thing changed their whole life... At 7:35 the mom talks... AMAZING! She feels people have the right to choose. (See Below)At the 9 minute marker they bring some fantastic points talking about BOTH sides.

When you hear the mom you hear what her greatest frustration has been. They want to share their story to help other be educated so they can make an educated decision and know more... but the raw milk advocates do not want to listen about what happened to Kylee, they don't want to hear these stories.
She also talks about the benefits.

This family does NOT present anything to scare people. The one thing family after family says is they really didn't know and didn't have much info. They heard how raw is the cure all and raw is great for your baby and raw is the best... many never researched anything.

I could figure out how to get the video url thingy so I am just posting the link with the video. This is not where I read about this but it is the same video.

http://www.realrawmilkfacts.com/real-life-stories


BTW- I am not anti -raw.
I have spent over half a lifetime in hospitals. I grew up in them... then my own children required extensive hospital stays. I have seen so much... I have also seen liver failure... kidneys shutting down... my own child sent home to die. I know what it is like to have a child on transplant list. I know what a central line is, a g-tube... the list goes on.
I also have seen first hand Campylobacter infection.
Guillain-Barré syndrome is strongly associated with Campylobacter. The variants of GBS are also just as devastating.
I have first hand experience with this as well.

I just believe in educating and bringing awareness so people can be informed and make the best decision for their family... whatever that may be.

For much the same reason I try to share about Johnes Disease.

I am a science geek. Can you tell?

So I am not turning this into a debate. I personally don't care what people choose to eat or drink. There is balance in everything.

 

[Latestarter]

This is your friendly moderator speaking... Perhaps it's time the thread went back to talking about rubber mats in goat houses. Both sides have expressed their views. If you'd like to continue the "debate", please start a PM as more than one person can participate there as well. Or start a new thread specifically aimed at this discussion. Thank you for your time. I now return you to your regularly scheduled forum threads.

 

[Southern by choice]

Apologies to the OP for the progression that led the discussion off topic.

 

[Green Acres Farm]

Sorry... Again...

 

[Latestarter]

It seems that my post was worded poorly and misunderstood... Nobody is in trouble, nothing was "wrong", no need for apologies... Sorry for the confusion. Perhaps someone could start a new thread with all this data, maybe in "Our Herds As Providers" subsection "milking"? That way folks looking for this detailed information might more easily find it?