Latestarter's ramblings/musings/gripes and grumbles.

[Latestarter]

Thanks. some of those comments were worth a chuckle. Seems there's folks over there who get their knickers in a bind sometimes as well.

 

[AClark]

Hey someone hit the nail on the head for me, I was wondering the exact same thing...how do you stick that up a bulls rear end without them being in a head catch? Glad I got an answer.

I wonder if my vet has one? Last time I had one of the horses there in the chute they just sedated her (floating teeth), and I doubt she even needed the sedation because she didn't seem phased in the least about having her mouth jacked open.
Still not sure I'd use it on a horse though. Maybe for branding...maybe.

Here's a question for the cattle folk, I saw in that thread they were talking about "nose tongs"...is that similar to a twitch? I've worked with cattle but never from that angle, I'm just the dummy they get to rope and drag them from the horse. I've done branding but only in a squeeze chute or tied down for calves.

 

[greybeard]

Don't know what a twitch is, but nose tongs are usually used at the head gate to hold the animals head up and keep it from thrashing around when you're puttin in ear tags, giving liquid medicines or dehorning.
They got all different kinds of them. Some have a chain, some a rope, some are spring latched. I prefer the rope thru the hole in one side. It provides a little bit of 'give' if the animal fights restraint. It's just a matter of choice tho.
2 minute mark in this video:

 

[AClark]

This is a twitch, there are different varieties of them, some with ropes and chains. You stick this over the horses upper lip and it gives you control when doing the same kind of things, shots, teeth, hooves, etc. It gives them something else to think about, and they say it releases endorphines to twitch them.

Thanks for the video, seems like it's the same principal, gives you some control and something else to think about for the animal.

 

[Latestarter]

OK then... moving on to some exciting news (for me and my girls anyway)... Just got back from SW TN and now have my registered, PB Lamancha herd sire

When I put him in with the girls, he immediately went after Dot. She must be in heat right now because he went nuts over her. Too dark and too tired to know if he actually got her or not. I mean I had to pull him off her and lead hi to the water trough so he could get a drink. He drank quite a bit, and then went right back to it. Hope he chills a little later and has some food. I put out fresh alfalfa hay and pellets enough for all of them.

Here's a pic of his Dam:

And here's his sire:

I'll get some pics of him when it's light out.

 

[babsbag]

Congrats on owning a buck and I love his name. Didn't surprise me in the least to see a Kastdemur in his lineage, that herd name gets around...it is a CA breeder that used to live near me. They have some beautiful animals.

On a side note... if you are leaving him with the girls full time watch that he doesn't run them. I know of someone who almost lost a doe when the buck ran her so much that her muscles started to break down from exertion. I have had some bucks I can leave with the does, others I have to separate.

 

[greybeard]

congrats on your herd sire.
wait...you went somewhere..all the way to Tn..and back, and didn't run off the road, or lose an animal, or your cargo, or break a window, or have a blowout, or get pulled over by the popo?
Isn't this one of the signs the apocalypse is upon us?

 

[CntryBoy777]

congrats on your herd sire.
wait...you went somewhere..all the way to Tn..and back, and didn't run off the road, or lose an animal, or your cargo, or break a window, or have a blowout, or get pulled over by the popo?
Isn't this one of the signs the apocalypse is upon us?

....Congratulations Joe!!....hope he does ya proud...waiting on pics for sure....

 

[AClark]

I have to second Greybeard...you went on a trip and there was no "adventure" to it? How does one go about that?
We went to the city last week to help a friend pick up a car that was supposed to run good. Find out the carb is so in need of a rebuild and has rust in it that it wouldn't run under stress and couldn't drive up on the trailer...hours later, a 1 hour trip turned into all day. I'm used to it, as I'm sure you are, and it doesn't upset me anymore.

Can't wait to see pics of him! I may be starting to shop for a Nubian herd sire, I'm not sure our pygmy buck is tall enough to get the job done as he's been with the Nubian girls and they just came back in heat again. If they come back in heat in 3 weeks I'll be getting another larger buck.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

I'm not sure our pygmy buck is tall enough to get the job done

When I first started breeding Kinders I had that problem too. I had a ramp laying around that I put a couple of cement blocks on and would back the does up to there. I've used hay bales, depressions in the ground, low boy trailer, etc... Sometimes they just need a little boost.