Lenora is CAE positive, I need advice.

[cmjust0]

Yep, Dr. Glover said if I gave an anti-inflamatory I'd also
need to give Zantac at the same time. Well, for me, that would be at a later date, and maybe not at all if she doesn't get a lot worse than she is presently.

Again, I'm going to monitor Lenora and take it day by day.

Right now, she seems OK. She is getting good quaility hay and supplemental feed and is current on her CD & T.

Dang!! Having these goats is for sure not a piece of cake.

DonnaBelle

I think famotidine is the more common recommended coupling with NSAIDs in animals...Pepcid A/C. That's what I've heard the most, anyway.

I dunno how it works in goats, to be honest..

Next time I talk to the vet who mentioned carprofen and goats, I'm gonna drill him for a little more info. He might even tell me who he prescribed it for, and I'm not shy about picking up the phone to call other goat people.

 

[DonnaBelle]

Sounds like a plan. I try to post any info from vets on here, even if I don't like the sound of it.

Dr. Glover is a great guy, but he's a horse and cow man. His bread and butter, so to speak.

However, he is not above treating a goat, and will make house calls as he did when he came out an drew blood from Lenora.

Thanks again, CM

DonnaBelle

 

[LostNation]

I'd be inclined to contemplate Mycoplasma as a possibility if the joint swelling is coming & going - icky, nasty stuff but it's at least treatable (w/ antibiotic), whereas CAE isn't. In my experience, when a CAE goat "blows up" w/ the joint swelling . . . it's all downhill from there. (Mycoplasma can be tested for by drawing fluid out from the swollen joints & sending it in for analysis - seems like this is one of the tests that MSU offers, if I'm remembering correctly)

Kind regards,
Sarah/Lost Nation Farm/MI

 

[LostNation]

Follow up stuff that might be helpful (I don't know if these Merck Vet Manual links will come thru, properly, but . . . trying, anyway!):

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/90600.htm&word=mycoplasma,goat

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/90609.htm

Myriad of testing that MSU offers:
http://www.animalhealth.msu.edu/Misc/AD.ADM.REF.005.pdf

 

[lupinfarm]

I'm not sure I'd start pumping my animal full of drugs though, cmjust0...

As you've said many many times they can develop a resistance to certain drugs. I mean, look at people who have to switch drugs because one they'e been taking for their whole life isn't working so great anymore. Perhaps starting off with a supplement would be best. I know horses and goats are drastically different, but my pony has arthritis in her hocks pretty bad and she's on a joint supplement at the moment. We give her Cortaflex and I have noticed a considerable amount of difference in the way she walks, turns, and even all her gaits. When we first got Luna she couldn't do anything more than turn on the haunches very awkwardly because she was in so much pain. We got her weight up, and she's on a supplement now to help with her joints. When the time comes I'll look into a long-term medication, but for now supplementation is a good option, and it might be a good option for the OP.

May very well be the case, and a good suggestion.. I hadn't really thought about it, frankly.

I can tell you that when we were asking the vet about sources of glucosamine/chondroitin for our LGD, he mentioned looking at horse products. So, I know they're out there..

I would think that if it's fit for a horse, it's probably fine for a goat too.

They are they are they are! There are more generic versions of Cortaflex in a liquid that is MUCH cheaper than Cortaflex. I can't remember the name, but I believe Farnam makes a product that comes in a liquid that is good for dogs and humans and is far cheaper than the $60/bottle for the horse product. I didn't have much luck with just MSM, so the vet suggested trying Cortaflex and my pony is super picky about supplements and it came in a nice little alfalfa pellet which worked for us. Donnabelle might consider talking to her vet about a Cortaflex type product, since it comes in an alfalfa pellet she could add it to her goats feed if her vet thinks its a good idea. She'd have to lower the dose as the horse one is based on 1000lbs of weight, but its possible!

 

[Jody]

Bottle feeding baby goats is awesome. I have a baby that I'm bottle feeding and it's joyful to do it.

 

[DonnaBelle]

Hi all,

Well, getting ready to call Hoegger's and order some nipples, a kid drencher, a themometer to get the temperature on the colustrum.

When talking to Annie and Felicia's breeder yesterday she said that she uses a double boiler and heats the colustrum to exactly 135 degrees and then puts it in a good pre warmed thermos and then leaves it there for one hour before giving it to the kid.

I'm reading everything I can about bottle feeding. I'm trying to have the proper items on hand before the happy day. Which who knows when that will be, but not for a while, after April 11 said Lenora's breeder.

I only wish DH would get the new goat barn ready ASAP. He is volunteering at the State Park this week, and is not here doing my bidding, much to my chagrin. However, I am keeping my discontent to myself.

DonnaBelle

 

[cmjust0]

Hi all,

Well, getting ready to call Hoegger's and order some nipples, a kid drencher, a themometer to get the temperature on the colustrum.

I've always wanted to say this...

Might I recommend this nipple?



We've tried a bunch of different ones, but have had the best luck with these.

I also highly recommend starting kids out on bottles using an old-school thick glass pop bottle, preheated in hot water.. Holds the milk temp much better so you can fight longer.

 

[DonnaBelle]

Thanks CM, I just added a couple of those to the order.

DonnaBelle

 

[RockyToggRanch]

I'm not a soda drinker...where do you find those old pop btls these days? an antique store? I should have some on hand as well.