Poopy Kid **UPDATED** Pg 2

[SarahFair]

He still is a little poopy. I gave him the 5 day dose and have waited to see if it "kicks" in but, it hasnt.

I dont think its cocci. There are no other signs than pooping. Hes eating hay, grain, grass, and still very eager for his bottle. Hes very active
Im wondering if its the whole cows milk?
He was started on goats milk and Im wondering if it isnt something with pasteurized cows?

I dont have access to goats milk so is it possible to wean him early?
He is currently a little over 6 weeks old

or does anyone have any other idea what it is?

 

[20kidsonhill]

Lots of us use whole cows milk, I personally don't think it would be that,
Have you tried adding some yogurt to his bottle for a couple days?

Other options for scours could be another kind of parasite,

Or could be bacterial.

Neomycin or specatm scour halt for pigs(it is red), is good for bacterial


Safegaurd or valbabazene liquird wormer would be good for other parasites.


could still be cocci, what dosage did you follow?

could be that his rumen needs probiotics, ect....

Does he/she seem bloated or does his stomach get slaushy after a bottle? This could be an sign of overeating disease.

Sorry to give you several options. But My first guess wouldn't be the milk.

 

[SarahFair]

I followed on package (and I did add just a tad more)

He doesnt get sloshy and acts as normal as his brother (whom is with him 24/7 and has NO problems and on the same diet)

Ill try some yogart next..
How much do I add to the milk?


I also wanted to include that some of his poops are solid and its often watery mixed with solid

 

[20kidsonhill]

I followed on package (and I did add just a tad more)

He doesnt get sloshy and acts as normal as his brother (whom is with him 24/7 and has NO problems and on the same diet)

Ill try some yogart next..
How much do I add to the milk?


I also wanted to include that some of his poops are solid and its often watery mixed with solid

good question, a tablespoon, or two.

I will have to say, I don't use the sulfa at as high a rate as some people use it on here, but some people are using it at quite a bit high rate compared to the bottle directions.

Liquid safegaurd would be a pretty good wormer to invest in, it comes in a small bottle for $20, and is used at 3x the label dosage for 3 days in a row.

 

[elevan]

I followed on package (and I did add just a tad more)

Package directions aren't for goats. Here's some information on dosages for different coccidia options . If your dosage wasn't pretty close then I would do another round.

I would add neomycin to his bottle...1 ml/ 20# Continue treatment for 24-48 hrs beyond remission of disease symptoms, but not more than 14 consecutive days for bacterial scours.

Definitely adding some probiotics (yogurt) would be helpful.

And quite frankly I would pull the milk for 24 hours and give electrolytes instead.

 

[EggsForIHOP]

I just had a thought!

MAKE SURE YOU DOSE HIM AND HIS FRIEND!!! You mentioned a "brother"....he could be partially the culprit here...

I learned that one the hard way last year...one kid was shedding oocsyts like crazy but not showing ANY signs and one kid was keeping the runs/poopy butt because she was exposed to cocci. The vet's first question was "Did you treat both that live together or just one?" That was my hard lesson in "they don't have to show it to share it"

Also, like others said, be sure you are dosing correctly and high enough. With the 2 we had, I had to dose at 1cc/5lbs for a full 21 days, wait 21 days more, and then begin a normal round to get back a clean fecal. Poor little darlin's had it bad!

And the scour halt is not a bad idea just in case too...only takes a little to see a change...but still be sure you treat both kids as you mentioned he has a brother....brother could appear healthy and be sharing bugs...siblings do that sometimes

 

[fmizula]

so is it reckomended to preventitivly treat for cocci? i have sulmet and corid on had from a chicken outbreak. i have two four week old nigerians and one two week old lamacha. i have not pretreated before.

 

[bonbean01]

A little while ago I also posted about a poopy lamb...she was eating and active and did not act ill at all...was ready to go with Corid, but first tried Pepto Bismal mixed with 2 Tablespoons of yogurt and we drenched her and it got better...drenched her again the next day with the same stuff and she was done with the poopies...no problems now.

p.s...I was having some digestive problems myself at the time and took a good swig of the Pepto and it really helped.

 

[elevan]

Diarrhea is a symptom and not a disease in and of itself. Treating the diarrhea and not the cause for it can be extremely detrimental. In the case of coccidia, it can cause lifelong problems in the intestine creating a goat who is forever a poor doer. And using pepto in a goat can cause problems of it's own if you use too much.

CoRid is best used for prevention and not treatment imo. And I would also drench orally (don't add to their water).

Preventatively treating or not is a choice that the goat herder needs to make based on their needs. We treat preventatively during our wet season - all goats under 2 years old. Some only treat as needed. We had a very bad case of coccidia last year and through discussions with our vet decided to add it to our preventative maintenance program.

 

[bonbean01]

Good info E...thanks! Wasn't sure about the Corid as preventing or treating. Always something new to learn.