Bruce
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25% cream!
I think it is a misconception that eating fat causes fat.
I think it is a misconception that eating fat causes fat.
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Baymule
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That is some yummy looking milk!
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The fat globules in NON-homogenized milk are larger than when the milk is homogenized. To homogenize, they are broken up into very small "pieces" in order to stay in suspension. The fat globules will pass through the walls of the intestines when homogenized into very small "pieces". When the non-homogenized fat travels through the system, the body ( intestines) will take out all the good and some of the fat actually will pass on through the intestines and exit the body in a more intact form so to speak. There is more good nutrition in the fat ( Hence the popularity of the KETO DIETS) and it does not cause the body to get fat. It also has to do with the metabolism of kids too.... I mean hey, we just don't do all the "jumping wiggling etc. around" that kids do either.
Look up the thread that @Mike CHS started (?) about all the Keto foods/plan.... or maybe it was @Devonviolet , but several have been following it and lost weight and there is alot of "fat" in that diet.
Look up the thread that @Mike CHS started (?) about all the Keto foods/plan.... or maybe it was @Devonviolet , but several have been following it and lost weight and there is alot of "fat" in that diet.
Mike CHS
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Search "low carb/keto diet" and there is some pretty good info.
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rachels.haven
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Wow. Bailey the dog weighs 122.5 pounds. Vet does not mind because of the amount she's eating daily-the dog is not over-eating. She also does not like vet visits and outweighed and outmaneuvered (and out leaned and out squished) the technicians so we'll be going back next week for blood draw because she did not let them at her veins today. They also split the shots into two visits for stress's sake and to upgrade her lyme vaccine to a better one since she started being defensive anyway. Silly dog could have gotten it over in one visit. Aw well.
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That is too funny! Our 2 LGDs are the same way. We have gone to the Vet since they were puppies, and it's never traumatic. But, they don't like being away from their goats. In fact they don't like it when I take their goats to the barn, for weighing or meds, etc. They start barking as I lead them away. Anyway, I was going to tell you that we take them in the bed of the truck and the Vet and Techs do their thing right in the back of the truck. I will say, we have a bed topper, which makes it so easy to keep them in the back of the truck. We got it just for carrying animals back there.
Those side windows are hinged at the top, so the window can be raised for easy access to animals in the bed of the truck. There are also sliding windows, with screen, so we can have airflow when we are transporting animals.
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rachels.haven
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Secretly, that and hay is why I got my mini van. I still need to devise a floor cover that isn't a tarp, maybe add bars in the back so the dog isn't sitting on the kids feet any time we take her anywhere.
Unfortunately she would rather be bonded and supervising my kids than the goats, and she's been acting depressed in the pen as she adjusts, so long story long we've driven her to a few of the walking trails close by by minivan for family walks to perk her up in the goat run later in the day (also they were vet test runs/intentional conditioning), so she likes the car. She may be happier in the there to do blood.
I'm a little concerned about this vet because she didn't want to muzzle Ms. Bailey, and Bailey was trying to soft bite at them every time she got pricked by a needle and they were intimidated. I would have told her to knock it off, gotten the muzzle, and gotten on with it, but hey, I'm not a vet. I may buy a muzzle and do it myself if they will take the sample when I hand it to them. She does not pull that with me.
She also told me that if I couldn't get her to reach basic obedience goals that I should get her in a class. I only need her to come when called sometimes and maybe leave it (although we've already been working on leave it and it is going fine, she looks for permission before trying to eat anything she's in doubt about...except cashews for some reason, and I may use those as training treats since my kids like stashing them in the car and not eating them). I wonder if this vet understands she is a goat dog and a walk dog, not a house dog.
Also, is it normal to have a vet want to know all the meds you ever use on your goats so if dog eats poop dog won't get poisoned? I'm actually not the slightest bit worried about that. That would be a lot of poop. I may attempt to accidentally forget about that vet request if it is unnecessary. The dog should be fine.
I'd like to keep going to this vet because they're an 8 minute drive down the hill, but man, I feel like this vet is a pet vet and is out of her depth and was rather pricey (which I would rather not get into).
Unfortunately she would rather be bonded and supervising my kids than the goats, and she's been acting depressed in the pen as she adjusts, so long story long we've driven her to a few of the walking trails close by by minivan for family walks to perk her up in the goat run later in the day (also they were vet test runs/intentional conditioning), so she likes the car. She may be happier in the there to do blood.
I'm a little concerned about this vet because she didn't want to muzzle Ms. Bailey, and Bailey was trying to soft bite at them every time she got pricked by a needle and they were intimidated. I would have told her to knock it off, gotten the muzzle, and gotten on with it, but hey, I'm not a vet. I may buy a muzzle and do it myself if they will take the sample when I hand it to them. She does not pull that with me.
She also told me that if I couldn't get her to reach basic obedience goals that I should get her in a class. I only need her to come when called sometimes and maybe leave it (although we've already been working on leave it and it is going fine, she looks for permission before trying to eat anything she's in doubt about...except cashews for some reason, and I may use those as training treats since my kids like stashing them in the car and not eating them). I wonder if this vet understands she is a goat dog and a walk dog, not a house dog.
Also, is it normal to have a vet want to know all the meds you ever use on your goats so if dog eats poop dog won't get poisoned? I'm actually not the slightest bit worried about that. That would be a lot of poop. I may attempt to accidentally forget about that vet request if it is unnecessary. The dog should be fine.
I'd like to keep going to this vet because they're an 8 minute drive down the hill, but man, I feel like this vet is a pet vet and is out of her depth and was rather pricey (which I would rather not get into).
B&B Happy goats
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I don't think she knows anything about LGDS. .... follow your gut instincts ....
you are alot smarter than she is about your dog
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our vet has never asked about goat meds..... or suggested any obedience class
you are alot smarter than she is about your dog
.......our vet has never asked about goat meds..... or suggested any obedience class
Baymule
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Obedience class? It's ok if she bonds to your family. Let her have house time with the family in the evenings, then back outside. She can handle both worlds. As I write this, our male, Trip is asleep on the floor. He relishes house time and will come to the door and "ask" to come in. Our female NEVER comes in and the few times I tried, she utterly freaked out. So there you have it, each dog is different. Your vet is missing the mark, you don't so much train the dog to you, as much as the dog trains you to her. Somewhere in there is a happy medium.
keep her at work as much as possible, take her treats and spend time with her in her work space. Bring her in each evening for love and attention, nap, then put her back outside. That's what we do with Trip and it works for him. Since we raise feeder pigs, I get the soup bones and give the dogs semi frozen "dog popcicles" on hot days. LOL
It's ok if she bonds to your family. Let her have house time with the family in the evenings, then back outside. She can handle both worlds. As I write this, our male, Trip is asleep on the floor. He relishes house time and will come to the door and "ask" to come in. Our female NEVER comes in and the few times I tried, she utterly freaked out. So there you have it, each dog is different. Your vet is missing the mark, you don't so much train the dog to you, as much as the dog trains you to her. Somewhere in there is a happy medium. keep her at work as much as possible, take her treats and spend time with her in her work space. Bring her in each evening for love and attention, nap, then put her back outside. That's what we do with Trip and it works for him. Since we raise feeder pigs, I get the soup bones and give the dogs semi frozen "dog popcicles" on hot days. LOL
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rachels.haven
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Yeah, I was of the opinion she's pretty well behaved. 99% of the time she even asks before eating stuff on the floor when I do bring her in and walks on a loose lead. She doesn't come when called yet, but neither do the goats unless there's something in it for them. And no, she didn't let the vet draw blood and didn't tolerate being stuck 4+ times, but I wouldn't either and obedience classes aren't going to fix that. She wasn't even that feisty with them, but they got scared. She tolerates me clipping her nails and grooming her just fine as I listen to when she's getting stressed and she just accepts anything the kids have dished out so far, so I'm just going to roll my eyes at the obedience thing. I will work on her recall, but I don't mind her acting like a goat if she's in with the goats most of the time especially at this point. She's only been here a day over a week. Still feel like muzzling her and getting the blood draw over with in 2 minutes would have been kinder to her (and save me from laying down the law if she ever tries to pull that behavior here, but somehow I doubt she will).
Yesterday I didn't drive her to a park for a walk in the morning. The vet visit had left her with the runs for some reason and she wasn't acting like she felt good after the shots either, so we skipped it. She was very sad with very loud whines from the goat pen when we had to load up in the car without her and go to the grocery store. She expects to sit on her kids now at least once a day (just kidding, she lays by their feet, behind the front seat). Regardless, she did not go to Sams club and wally world for school supply shopping, although she would have made it more fun.
Yesterday I didn't drive her to a park for a walk in the morning. The vet visit had left her with the runs for some reason and she wasn't acting like she felt good after the shots either, so we skipped it. She was very sad with very loud whines from the goat pen when we had to load up in the car without her and go to the grocery store. She expects to sit on her kids now at least once a day (just kidding, she lays by their feet, behind the front seat). Regardless, she did not go to Sams club and wally world for school supply shopping, although she would have made it more fun.
