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I guess patience is the word of the day.... Hope something comes up.....
Ridgetop - our place and how we muddle along
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Ridgetop
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In for a long 2 days of property shopping. Kris is staying the night down here and we will start early tomorrow again.
He is getting a motel room - the thought of our trailer sofa bed didn't appeal to him! LOL
He is getting a motel room - the thought of our trailer sofa bed didn't appeal to him! LOL
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Ridgetop
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Saw 4 places yesterday. Started up north of Tyler.
First was 45 acres of good hay and pasture, older 4/2 brick home in Yantis. Huge old pecan trees and lots of yard shade. Very solid BUT right on the main highway. DH liked proximity to huge Lake Fork. 2 public boat ramps and water park within a mile. 450' deep well but only for irrigation and livestock. Good fencing.
Second place was in 25 acres of woods in Ben Wheeler. 4/3.5 with beautiful oaks, but whole property a disaster. Reminded us of Yelm after tenant moved out, except these junk piles were metal, rusted out vehicles, miscellaneous junk as well as trash. 3 RUSTED AND BROKEN SWING SETS!!! It would take a month of backbreaking work just to clear the property, and where would you take the trash? That was before we even went into the house. It would need $$$$$ and hard work to fix up. Different levels of floors - both step down and sloping. Lots of add ons which had no style or sense to them. One room was added outside the MBR enclosing the windows so no windows in the MBR!! DH got out of the truck, took one look around and tried to get back in the truck! Told Kris "This dog ain't gonna hunt". No pasture. Owner pointed into woods and said he used to get 60 rolled bales of hay off the dimly seen area between the trees "before I let the trees kind of grow up".
In another lifetime maybe. Owner kept trying to sell us the property but DH said just the kitchen would take a lot of work. Owner made the mistake of asking what was wrong with the kitchen and DH pointed to the door hanging off the hinges and the board nailed across the hole. Even the track in to the house would have to be graded and graveled, couldn't call it a driveway. Glad we could switch to 4WD!
Third place was 25 acres of beautiful grass hay in Canton. House sat way in the back on the property line and was a newly remodeled 4/3. But again the remodelers had taken an old house and remodeled it with a bad floor plan, glaring problems, and poor workmanship. The home was said to have been built in 1961, but the original radiator connections were sticking up out of the floor with the new flooring cut around them!!! One bathroom (original) had a match lit gas wall heater like our old house built in 1920! Horrible floor plan, and bad layout of building on the property for us wanting to rent it out for the next few years to satisfy the 1031 requirements before moving back here. No fencing. Owner was selling 2 smaller adjacent parcels which might have meant incomers building mega mansions to surround our new sheep farm. Back in the car pretty quick.
Fourth was the property DH was really interested in. Two 1500 sf homes on 47 acres with several shop buildings in Jacksonville. Drove through neighborhood of small properties to get there. Then the acreage was narrow with all the pasture in the back of the buildings. Pasture grass was ok but not taken care of. Would not be able to get anyone in to mow and bale with equipment. Newer cottage was cute but tiny. Layout not great. Metal roofing on ceiling "cutesy" but would get tired of it quickly. Best part was large carports and metal shop buildings. One new shop building had an 10,000 lb. engine/car lift hoist that would stay. Probably because one of the rafters ran through it so it couldn't be removed without taking out a rafter.
The shop and storage buildings were jammed in tight together and so were the 2 little houses. Worst part was the neighborhood. Houses surrounded the entire property and you could see the backs of the properties and all their stuff piled behind their storage buildings! Maybe 200 feet to houses on either side! No fencing and no privacy. And to top it off, a loose German Shepherd chased our cars as we left. Just the sort of "allowed to run loose" dog to come in after the sheep, get killed by our Anatolians. and cause a neighborhood crisis!
Off to see the last property in Palestine now. More later.
One more place to see this morning. 45 acres in Palestine with a 2 acre pond and a large double wide. Also an old metal 4 stall barn. It comes in UNDER budget so might fit the bill.
First was 45 acres of good hay and pasture, older 4/2 brick home in Yantis. Huge old pecan trees and lots of yard shade. Very solid BUT right on the main highway. DH liked proximity to huge Lake Fork. 2 public boat ramps and water park within a mile. 450' deep well but only for irrigation and livestock. Good fencing.
Second place was in 25 acres of woods in Ben Wheeler. 4/3.5 with beautiful oaks, but whole property a disaster. Reminded us of Yelm after tenant moved out, except these junk piles were metal, rusted out vehicles, miscellaneous junk as well as trash. 3 RUSTED AND BROKEN SWING SETS!!! It would take a month of backbreaking work just to clear the property, and where would you take the trash? That was before we even went into the house. It would need $$$$$ and hard work to fix up. Different levels of floors - both step down and sloping. Lots of add ons which had no style or sense to them. One room was added outside the MBR enclosing the windows so no windows in the MBR!! DH got out of the truck, took one look around and tried to get back in the truck! Told Kris "This dog ain't gonna hunt". No pasture. Owner pointed into woods and said he used to get 60 rolled bales of hay off the dimly seen area between the trees "before I let the trees kind of grow up".
In another lifetime maybe. Owner kept trying to sell us the property but DH said just the kitchen would take a lot of work. Owner made the mistake of asking what was wrong with the kitchen and DH pointed to the door hanging off the hinges and the board nailed across the hole. Even the track in to the house would have to be graded and graveled, couldn't call it a driveway. Glad we could switch to 4WD!Third place was 25 acres of beautiful grass hay in Canton. House sat way in the back on the property line and was a newly remodeled 4/3. But again the remodelers had taken an old house and remodeled it with a bad floor plan, glaring problems, and poor workmanship. The home was said to have been built in 1961, but the original radiator connections were sticking up out of the floor with the new flooring cut around them!!! One bathroom (original) had a match lit gas wall heater like our old house built in 1920! Horrible floor plan, and bad layout of building on the property for us wanting to rent it out for the next few years to satisfy the 1031 requirements before moving back here. No fencing. Owner was selling 2 smaller adjacent parcels which might have meant incomers building mega mansions to surround our new sheep farm. Back in the car pretty quick.
Fourth was the property DH was really interested in. Two 1500 sf homes on 47 acres with several shop buildings in Jacksonville. Drove through neighborhood of small properties to get there. Then the acreage was narrow with all the pasture in the back of the buildings. Pasture grass was ok but not taken care of. Would not be able to get anyone in to mow and bale with equipment. Newer cottage was cute but tiny. Layout not great. Metal roofing on ceiling "cutesy" but would get tired of it quickly. Best part was large carports and metal shop buildings. One new shop building had an 10,000 lb. engine/car lift hoist that would stay. Probably because one of the rafters ran through it so it couldn't be removed without taking out a rafter.
The shop and storage buildings were jammed in tight together and so were the 2 little houses. Worst part was the neighborhood. Houses surrounded the entire property and you could see the backs of the properties and all their stuff piled behind their storage buildings! Maybe 200 feet to houses on either side! No fencing and no privacy. And to top it off, a loose German Shepherd chased our cars as we left. Just the sort of "allowed to run loose" dog to come in after the sheep, get killed by our Anatolians. and cause a neighborhood crisis!Off to see the last property in Palestine now. More later.
One more place to see this morning. 45 acres in Palestine with a 2 acre pond and a large double wide. Also an old metal 4 stall barn. It comes in UNDER budget so might fit the bill.
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Saw 4 places yesterday. Started up north of Tyler.
First was 45 acres of good hay and pasture, older 4/2 brick home in Yantis. Huge old pecan trees and lots of yard shade. Very solid BUT right on the main highway. DH liked proximity to huge Lake Fork. 2 public boat ramps and water park within a mile. 450' deep well but only for irrigation and livestock. Good fencing.
Second place was in 25 acres of woods in Ben Wheeler. 4/3.5 with beautiful oaks, but whole property a disaster. Reminded us of Yelm after tenant moved out, except these junk piles were metal, rusted out vehicles, miscellaneous junk as well as trash. 3 RUSTED AND BROKEN SWING SETS!!! It would take a month of backbreaking work just to clear the property, and where would you take the trash? That was before we even went into the house. It would need $$$$$ and hard work to fix up. Different levels of floors - both step down and sloping. Lots of add ons which had no style or sense to them. One room was added outside the MBR enclosing the windows so no windows in the MBR!! DH got out of the truck, took one look around and tried to get back in the truck! Told Kris "This dog ain't gonna hunt". No pasture. Owner pointed into woods and said he used to get 60 rolled bales of hay off the dimly seen area between the trees "before I let the trees kind of grow up".
Third place was 25 acres of beautiful grass hay in Canton. House sat way in the back on the property line and was a newly remodeled 4/3. But again the remodelers had taken an old house and remodeled it with a bad floor plan, glaring problems, and poor workmanship. The home was said to have been built in 1961, but the original radiator connections were sticking up out of the floor with the new flooring cut around them!!! One bathroom (original) had a match lit gas wall heater like our old house built in 1920! Horrible floor plan, and bad layout of building on the property for us wanting to rent it out for the next few years to satisfy the 1031 requirements before moving back here. No fencing. Owner was selling 2 smaller adjacent parcels which might have meant incomers building mega mansions to surround our new sheep farm. Back in the car pretty quick.
Fourth was the property DH was really interested in. Two 1500 sf homes on 47 acres with several shop buildings in Jacksonville. Drove through neighborhood of small properties to get there. Then the acreage was narrow with all the pasture in the back of the buildings. Pasture grass was ok but not taken care of. Would not be able to get anyone in to mow and bale with equipment. Newer cottage was cute but tiny. Layout not great. Metal roofing on ceiling "cutesy" but would get tired of it quickly. Best part was large carports and metal shop buildings. One new shop building had an 10,000 lb. engine/car lift hoist that would stay. Probably because one of the rafters ran through it so it couldn't be removed without taking out a rafter.
Off to see the last property in Palestine now. More later.
One more place to see this morning. 45 acres in Palestine with a 2 acre pond and a large double wide. Also an old metal 4 stall barn. It comes in UNDER budget so might fit the bill.
Baymule
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Hauling off garbage of that magnitude can run into thousands. Couple up the road bought 3 acres, spent $12,000 hauling off the THREE wrecked out mobile homes hidden in the brush/vines/trees. Plus burned out log cabin and all the trash. That made them run out of money before they completed their small metal home, so their RV is still their kitchen and bathroom.
Mini Horses
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Hope the one in Palestine is better. So far, the one on the main highway is best of 3 you describe! We all dislike the highways! But I'd double fence that front and leave good perimeter for ???? An orchard? Grass? Garden? Flowers?? Farmers market??
Bruce
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Right on the main highway would be a HELL NO for me even if there were an 8' high block wall.
Baymule
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Me too. A paved farm road would be ok but even those are busy.
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Ridgetop
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Well we went to the Palestine property yesterday. Property seems way outside town but between probably because all surrounding property is heavily wooded. We turned to soon and drove up a terrible dirt trail about a mile into what looked like a survivalist encampment except that most of the trailers were junkers used as storage. Survivalists hide their camps much better. LOL Probably some "good ol' boys" huntin' camps. NRA sticker on one trailer reassured us LOL Anyway, no one stopped us and we turned around and got back on highway. Next turnoff was narrow one lane 2 mile dirt road leading to property. No turnouts. Road needed some grading but much better that first one. One home at beginning of dirt road and another about midway. Cattle on both sides in open areas. Got to end of road and locked gate which was property. House was double wide mobile. Gorgeous! Loved it and layout! 
Home was beautifully kept, furnished, huge with 2 living spaces and 3/2. Furniture was negotiable too. Modern huge kitchen with large breakfast bar/island opening into FR with wood burning fireplace. Off kitchen was laundry room with room for our huge chest freezer, and entry deck. Another small deck opened off kitchen door. There was a large dining room beyond family room 2ith another large second living room. There was a large deck across the rear of the home opening from the living areas overlooking large lawn, large horse turnout adjacent to 36'x48' driveway barn, more turnout area to tree line which overlooked huge meadow leading to gorgeous lake. 2 large bedrooms with very nice bedroom and separate entrance to huge MBR with gorgeous bath.
Walked down to lake which had some open area allowing launch of kayaks or small fishing boat onto huge 2 acre pond surrounded by woods. Raised dirt road led behind lake with several culverts under the road to allow runoff when flooded. Road dead ended at clearing into higher bank which showed signs of excavation. This was perfect place to set up rifle range. Some open pasture areas sighted further back into woods too. 36'x48' metal horse barn drive through barn with tack room and some stalls built inside. Room to put portable jugs up with room for more. Good grass on meadow and grazing/browsing in woods would be good too.
Ready to buy? Wait for it -
Drawbacks - The property didn't have much access or flat area. Difficult access for haying or hay delivery. Couldn't log or sell timber to build another home because of difficult/no access for equipment and lumber trucks. Fencing for dogs and sheep through woods would be extremely expensive although doable and could be confined to areas near house leaving the further woods open. Heavy predator load. Access to medical or emergency services and shopping for us at our age would be difficult. Hilly -not as bad as our cliffside dwelling! But everything was rolling land and would involve walking up and down slopes. We were tired after walking back uphill from the lake.
LARGEST DRAWBACKS - Easements for power lines across meadow! The listing said 138 KV but there were 2 sets of lines. One was normal large poles and transformers (138KV), but the other was a huge metal tower line that DH said was a 500KV line. UGH! Funny thing was you couldn't see the power lines from the deck or yard since the trees at the edge of the yard hid them from view. You could only see the edge of one tower base to the left. There were large farm gates on either side of the property opening into the meadow - this was the power company easement! Can you imagine Bubba chasing the power linemen up the towers when they enter his meadow of sheep?!!
SECOND OF LARGEST DRAWBACKS - Two more easements for Oneak and Lone Star pipelines running diagonally across rear of property! These would probably be underground pipelines but you couldn't know unless you saddled up and rode into the woods. Also would be another easement access for these pipelines. There were large notices at the "good ol' boys" camp up the road abut pipelines, and more notices at the beginning of the 2 mile road to the property. The 2 acre pond was in the middle of the acreage with both easements on either side of it.
Great for a hunting, fishing, vacation home, but not so good for running our sheep and
Anatolians. Would be a great vacation destination for our family IF THEY WANTED TO DRIVE 3 DAYS TO GET HERE! Buy it in a heartbeat if our family were living in Texas as a family vacation camp. Considering buying it anyway if other offers don't go through.
Beautiful!!!
Making Pro and Con lists on properties now.
Home was beautifully kept, furnished, huge with 2 living spaces and 3/2. Furniture was negotiable too. Modern huge kitchen with large breakfast bar/island opening into FR with wood burning fireplace. Off kitchen was laundry room with room for our huge chest freezer, and entry deck. Another small deck opened off kitchen door. There was a large dining room beyond family room 2ith another large second living room. There was a large deck across the rear of the home opening from the living areas overlooking large lawn, large horse turnout adjacent to 36'x48' driveway barn, more turnout area to tree line which overlooked huge meadow leading to gorgeous lake. 2 large bedrooms with very nice bedroom and separate entrance to huge MBR with gorgeous bath. Walked down to lake which had some open area allowing launch of kayaks or small fishing boat onto huge 2 acre pond surrounded by woods. Raised dirt road led behind lake with several culverts under the road to allow runoff when flooded. Road dead ended at clearing into higher bank which showed signs of excavation. This was perfect place to set up rifle range. Some open pasture areas sighted further back into woods too. 36'x48' metal horse barn drive through barn with tack room and some stalls built inside. Room to put portable jugs up with room for more. Good grass on meadow and grazing/browsing in woods would be good too.
Ready to buy? Wait for it -
Drawbacks - The property didn't have much access or flat area. Difficult access for haying or hay delivery. Couldn't log or sell timber to build another home because of difficult/no access for equipment and lumber trucks. Fencing for dogs and sheep through woods would be extremely expensive although doable and could be confined to areas near house leaving the further woods open. Heavy predator load. Access to medical or emergency services and shopping for us at our age would be difficult. Hilly -not as bad as our cliffside dwelling! But everything was rolling land and would involve walking up and down slopes. We were tired after walking back uphill from the lake.
LARGEST DRAWBACKS - Easements for power lines across meadow! The listing said 138 KV but there were 2 sets of lines. One was normal large poles and transformers (138KV), but the other was a huge metal tower line that DH said was a 500KV line. UGH! Funny thing was you couldn't see the power lines from the deck or yard since the trees at the edge of the yard hid them from view. You could only see the edge of one tower base to the left. There were large farm gates on either side of the property opening into the meadow - this was the power company easement! Can you imagine Bubba chasing the power linemen up the towers when they enter his meadow of sheep?!!
SECOND OF LARGEST DRAWBACKS - Two more easements for Oneak and Lone Star pipelines running diagonally across rear of property! These would probably be underground pipelines but you couldn't know unless you saddled up and rode into the woods. Also would be another easement access for these pipelines. There were large notices at the "good ol' boys" camp up the road abut pipelines, and more notices at the beginning of the 2 mile road to the property. The 2 acre pond was in the middle of the acreage with both easements on either side of it.
Great for a hunting, fishing, vacation home, but not so good for running our sheep and
Anatolians. Would be a great vacation destination for our family IF THEY WANTED TO DRIVE 3 DAYS TO GET HERE! Buy it in a heartbeat if our family were living in Texas as a family vacation camp. Considering buying it anyway if other offers don't go through.
Beautiful!!!
Making Pro and Con lists on properties now.
Larsen Poultry Ranch
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Could you put it up on air bnb or other site for vacation rental?
