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Overrun with beasties
Not a problem Emily. I researched it not long ago because I thought the same as you and wondered how these people were getting away with registering these goats.
Roll Farms - Herdstock is over, and I'm feeling hung over, lol
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autumnprairie
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that is one beautiful buck
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Yeah, if you look at the Middle Eastern / Indian goat breeds that boers and Nubians were originally crossed with during development, you'll see all types of color patterns.
The American breeders who had the 1st "red" boer goat born here, freaked out....ALL BOERS WERE WHITE W/ A RED HEAD!!! Or so they thought....so they start crossing red to red and...other wierd things popped up...paints...spots...blacks...etc.
So yes, there ARE fullblood spots. BUT there are also a lot of people crossing spotted Nubs to Boers and 'claiming' they're fb when they're really not.
(Seriously, unless you DNA type the goats, there's no way to *know* who the parents are, you're going on the breeders' word.)
Thanks for the link, but no more horned bucks for me. Nope. Even the 'nice' ones will get bored on occasion and use them to put lovely dents in your BRAND NEW BARN....grrr.
The mean ones will kill your does and tear up your fences.
The American breeders who had the 1st "red" boer goat born here, freaked out....ALL BOERS WERE WHITE W/ A RED HEAD!!! Or so they thought....so they start crossing red to red and...other wierd things popped up...paints...spots...blacks...etc.
So yes, there ARE fullblood spots. BUT there are also a lot of people crossing spotted Nubs to Boers and 'claiming' they're fb when they're really not.
(Seriously, unless you DNA type the goats, there's no way to *know* who the parents are, you're going on the breeders' word.)
Thanks for the link, but no more horned bucks for me. Nope. Even the 'nice' ones will get bored on occasion and use them to put lovely dents in your BRAND NEW BARN....grrr.
The mean ones will kill your does and tear up your fences.
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Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas w/ their families.
We went to my MIL's for dinner, opened gifts, and then came home and took our tree / Christmas lights down. Our living room set up doesn't go well w/ the tree so we're always anxious to get everything 'back to normal'.
DH got me a really pretty bracelet
but it has to be returned for repair or just plain returned b/c the clasp doesn't work.
He tried to get me a nifty little greenhouse but Harbor Freight didn't have a complete unit in stock...so he wrapped the rain check for me to open. Hopefully they'll get one in for me soon.
Dazzle's officially milking 8.5# of milk (a shade over a gallon). That's not a record-breaking amount, but it's a good amount for a Nubian and she has the best tasting milk. Penny (Ob) is still producing (kidded in May), Derri's giving around 2/3 of a gallon, Foxy's giving 3/4 of a gallon, Ruby about 1/2 gallon, Peyton about 2/3 of a gallon (and those two are Boers!) Throw in Dazzle's and it amounts to about 3.5 g a day....I'm only feeding 3 kids....so we're quickly getting covered up w/ milk.
Penny, Ruby, and Peyton are now being dried off (slowly). Foxy's going to go to 1x a day milking, so only Dazzle and Derri will be milked 2x a day. It will still be more than I need, but we can freeze the surplus and use it for future babies....make ice cream...and pies...and fudge...
We went to my MIL's for dinner, opened gifts, and then came home and took our tree / Christmas lights down. Our living room set up doesn't go well w/ the tree so we're always anxious to get everything 'back to normal'.
DH got me a really pretty bracelet
but it has to be returned for repair or just plain returned b/c the clasp doesn't work. He tried to get me a nifty little greenhouse but Harbor Freight didn't have a complete unit in stock...so he wrapped the rain check for me to open. Hopefully they'll get one in for me soon.
Dazzle's officially milking 8.5# of milk (a shade over a gallon). That's not a record-breaking amount, but it's a good amount for a Nubian and she has the best tasting milk. Penny (Ob) is still producing (kidded in May), Derri's giving around 2/3 of a gallon, Foxy's giving 3/4 of a gallon, Ruby about 1/2 gallon, Peyton about 2/3 of a gallon (and those two are Boers!) Throw in Dazzle's and it amounts to about 3.5 g a day....I'm only feeding 3 kids....so we're quickly getting covered up w/ milk.
Penny, Ruby, and Peyton are now being dried off (slowly). Foxy's going to go to 1x a day milking, so only Dazzle and Derri will be milked 2x a day. It will still be more than I need, but we can freeze the surplus and use it for future babies....make ice cream...and pies...and fudge...
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Sorry to hear about the bracelet.
Hmmm Greenhouse. Can't wait to hear when you get it.
Sounds like lots of milk at your farm. Good for you and future babies.
K
Hmmm Greenhouse. Can't wait to hear when you get it.
Sounds like lots of milk at your farm. Good for you and future babies.
K
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Well today's going to stink.
Pokey, who's been here 10 yrs, and Creampuff, who's been here 9 yrs, are both leaving, as well as Mandy and Hannah (the two rescue / starved goats I took in earlier this year - they're doing good now.) are leaving.
When I tallied our end-of-the-year costs vs. sales, I came out about $6000.00 in the hole. Part of that is due to increased feed costs, part of it due to buying a lot of new blood last year, and part due to a bumper crop of vet bills. We don't typically make record-breaking profits, but this is the worst loss in 10 yrs of doing this 'as my job'.
I've got 3 - 3wk old kids for sale in the barn now....and no buyers. That's never happened here before, usually kids leave w/in 24 hrs of listing them on the for sale page. BUT - we usually don't start kidding until late Dec / early Jan so I'm not sure if it's timing or lack of interest.
Compound it by not being able to breed several of the new kids bought last year (too young), and several does (Creampuff, the toggs) either not getting bred or having singles, and 2012 isn't looking like it's going to be much of a profit-maker, either. :/ I don't even have any udders building at the moment so no kids any time soon.
DH has also consented to selling the Toggs (it doesn't look like either was bred by the Togg buck who wouldn't stay in his pen w/ them....grrrr....) since he's so infatuated w/ his bunnies. And since he's spent so much on them he can't really say much to me about my goat losses. HA.
I'd already decided to give Pokey and Puffy away, but I see no sense in keeping Mandy and Hannah, who really shouldn't be bred again (both ended up having masitis probs and I don't want to deal w/ that / risk spreading it since mastitis isn't something I usually have to deal with), and feeding them w/out getting anything in return.
So I've been screening 'free' forever homes where they'll be pets and pasture ornaments, and think (HOPE) I've found them a good place.
DH (jokingly) told me "If you really wanted to help the bottom dollar, you'd sell them for meat."
So if I'm scarce around here, I'm feeling like a bit of a farming failure and a 'bad animal mom' lately...
I know I'm technically not (I can't control feed costs and shouldn't feel guilty for things out of my control)....but...
Pokey, who's been here 10 yrs, and Creampuff, who's been here 9 yrs, are both leaving, as well as Mandy and Hannah (the two rescue / starved goats I took in earlier this year - they're doing good now.) are leaving.
When I tallied our end-of-the-year costs vs. sales, I came out about $6000.00 in the hole. Part of that is due to increased feed costs, part of it due to buying a lot of new blood last year, and part due to a bumper crop of vet bills. We don't typically make record-breaking profits, but this is the worst loss in 10 yrs of doing this 'as my job'.
I've got 3 - 3wk old kids for sale in the barn now....and no buyers. That's never happened here before, usually kids leave w/in 24 hrs of listing them on the for sale page. BUT - we usually don't start kidding until late Dec / early Jan so I'm not sure if it's timing or lack of interest.
Compound it by not being able to breed several of the new kids bought last year (too young), and several does (Creampuff, the toggs) either not getting bred or having singles, and 2012 isn't looking like it's going to be much of a profit-maker, either. :/ I don't even have any udders building at the moment so no kids any time soon.
DH has also consented to selling the Toggs (it doesn't look like either was bred by the Togg buck who wouldn't stay in his pen w/ them....grrrr....) since he's so infatuated w/ his bunnies. And since he's spent so much on them he can't really say much to me about my goat losses. HA.
I'd already decided to give Pokey and Puffy away, but I see no sense in keeping Mandy and Hannah, who really shouldn't be bred again (both ended up having masitis probs and I don't want to deal w/ that / risk spreading it since mastitis isn't something I usually have to deal with), and feeding them w/out getting anything in return.
So I've been screening 'free' forever homes where they'll be pets and pasture ornaments, and think (HOPE) I've found them a good place.
DH (jokingly) told me "If you really wanted to help the bottom dollar, you'd sell them for meat."
So if I'm scarce around here, I'm feeling like a bit of a farming failure and a 'bad animal mom' lately...
I know I'm technically not (I can't control feed costs and shouldn't feel guilty for things out of my control)....but...
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You are not a failure. You are feeling how bad the economy really is. It's bad out there. So don't feel bad. You are not a bad farmer or a bad animal mom. The numbers you are seeing by the Government are lies. You are experiencing what is actually going on.
Example: Yesterday, a press release in New Jersey said that the existing home sales are going up. Sounds good right? Think again, the real story is the banks are selling the foreclosed and vacant properties to the townships to be demolished. So we, the taxpayers are paying for vacant and foreclosed properties PLUS the payment to demolish these foreclosed houses.
It doesn't matter who they sold the foreclosed properties to, it's consider a SALE! A deed change is just that a deed change.
And don't get me started on the unemployment numbers. That's a lie like no one's ever told.
So don't punish yourself Roll for something that is out of your control. As you wrote, you are doing what you need to do to save your farm.
And this disgraceful financial issue created by our Government is far from over.
You stay strong Roll. You stay independent. You will get through this. Times will be tight, but you can do it. Good Luck.
K
Example: Yesterday, a press release in New Jersey said that the existing home sales are going up. Sounds good right? Think again, the real story is the banks are selling the foreclosed and vacant properties to the townships to be demolished. So we, the taxpayers are paying for vacant and foreclosed properties PLUS the payment to demolish these foreclosed houses.
It doesn't matter who they sold the foreclosed properties to, it's consider a SALE! A deed change is just that a deed change.
And don't get me started on the unemployment numbers. That's a lie like no one's ever told.
So don't punish yourself Roll for something that is out of your control. As you wrote, you are doing what you need to do to save your farm.
And this disgraceful financial issue created by our Government is far from over.
You stay strong Roll. You stay independent. You will get through this. Times will be tight, but you can do it. Good Luck.
K
ThreeBoysChicks
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Stop the presses! - A failure you are NOT.
Much of my family was into farming of one sort or the other most of my life. Did they have years with a loss, yes they did. Were they ever a failure, no they were not.
So you were in the red last year, it happens. Look at all that you have, a husband, family and great friends. If I could find that link about your daughter's visit I would. You are a great mom.
Unfortunately, the facts are the facts. You can not take in ever rescue that there is. I feel your pain. Please do not think of yourself as a failutre.
Hoping all of the forever (PET) homes work out and your animals do well.
Positive thought - You can always use the loss on your Income Taxes
God bless!
Much of my family was into farming of one sort or the other most of my life. Did they have years with a loss, yes they did. Were they ever a failure, no they were not.
So you were in the red last year, it happens. Look at all that you have, a husband, family and great friends. If I could find that link about your daughter's visit I would. You are a great mom.
Unfortunately, the facts are the facts. You can not take in ever rescue that there is. I feel your pain. Please do not think of yourself as a failutre.
Hoping all of the forever (PET) homes work out and your animals do well.
Positive thought - You can always use the loss on your Income Taxes
God bless!
daisychick
Overrun with beasties
You are not a failure! I live in big time horse country and people used to sell foals for $1000 with out papers just 2 years ago. CL is now full of free horses because no one can afford hay. It is $12 for a small bale right now. People just cant afford anything but groceries for themselves, the economy is that bad. Sorry you have to get rid of some girls 
. You aren't the only one, it is happening everywhere. For the record, I would love to buy that doeling with the one spot, if you will drive her to me. 
. You aren't the only one, it is happening everywhere. For the record, I would love to buy that doeling with the one spot, if you will drive her to me.
autumnprairie
Owned by the Rotten Heifers
I hope things get better with the farm but look at it this way you are doing something you love and your side job wouldn't be super bad with a good boss and wonderfull customers.
If I could bring you hay I would. The hay I just bought was 4.00 a square bale; if I had horses I probably would be very upset since there are weeds in it but my goats and rabbits love it. I can also get round bales for 30.00 a bale. The grain costs are here .21/pound for alfalfa pellet by bulk. How do you buy your feed if you don't mind me asking?
I buy by the bag since I have less than 10 goats and it is more of a homestead farm. I will sell or give to famiily and friends but public probably not I don't want the headache. I have dairy goats now and meat goats, meat rabbits and chickens. I am trying to stop buying commercial meats. My goal is to only buy commodities from the stores ie, sugar, salt, flour, spices
Keep youo head up we are always here to cheer you on.
