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Congratulations! Ya did fine. 
Urgent.....Doe in labor NOW...update: healthy breech doeling
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ohiofarmgirl
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wow oh wow!! i was wondering what was going on!!!
yay!!!!! cant wait to see pix!
yay!!!!! cant wait to see pix!
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RockyToggRanch
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Glad everything is fine.
I just need to "butt" in for a sec. I'm not as experienced as many here are, but I have learned a lot, first hand in the last few months.
I read so many posts advising to push a breech back and reposition it.
As a newbie...I wish I had known the risk of uterine tears. My vet told me that pulling is usually okay...pushing is very dangerous.
I didn't push, but had to manipulate two tangled kids trying to present at the same time. This was after pulling a large dead breech kid. The doe died 2 days later.
Just saying...know what you're doing or risk losing your doe.
Sorry if this post is hyjacking...or inapropriate...I just never see any warnings of the dangers of pushing.
I just need to "butt" in for a sec. I'm not as experienced as many here are, but I have learned a lot, first hand in the last few months.
I read so many posts advising to push a breech back and reposition it.
As a newbie...I wish I had known the risk of uterine tears. My vet told me that pulling is usually okay...pushing is very dangerous.
I didn't push, but had to manipulate two tangled kids trying to present at the same time. This was after pulling a large dead breech kid. The doe died 2 days later.
Just saying...know what you're doing or risk losing your doe.
Sorry if this post is hyjacking...or inapropriate...I just never see any warnings of the dangers of pushing.
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Great job, Free!
Oh yeah, and going slow and working with the goat always helps! You just have to do the best you can with what you have to work with at the moment.
I've pushed lots of animals back in to get a better position for birthing. I think most of the trouble comes from not protecting possibly sharp (sharp enough to tear a uterus) like hooves. Babies are born with very soft hooves, but they're still sharp enough to tear a uterus. Usually when I have to bring hooves up, I cup my hand over them.RockyToggRanch said:
Oh yeah, and going slow and working with the goat always helps! You just have to do the best you can with what you have to work with at the moment.
RockyToggRanch
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That's the kind of info that is so important. But newbies read posts that don't include that safety info and assume simplicity.
glenolam
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I'm glad everything worked out well for you too!
Bristol is very far, especially in these quick storms we had today.
How far is Woodstock, CT from you? Tufts is there - might that be closer than Bristol?
Bristol is very far, especially in these quick storms we had today.
How far is Woodstock, CT from you? Tufts is there - might that be closer than Bristol?
Henrietta23
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I got the feeling he was out on a call in Bristol, not based there, but I could be wrong. Woodstock is probably close to an hour and a half from Free's area.glenolam said:
Mini-M Ranch
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I pushed back in under advisement of my vet, whom I trust very much. I understand there must be several different views on this, just as many other matters of goat care, or anything else for that matter. I think, in the moment, you have to do what your instincts tell you to do.
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freemotion
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And the trouble can be in how each person defines "push!" When I finally got bold and really put my hand in there, not just some timid fingers, I found that I really had a lot of room to work with. Huge doe, one baby. I suppose I was lucky, but it sure didn't feel that way when it was happening. I did know to protect the uterine wall when moving a foot. I'm just happy it was a goat and not a horse! I oversaw the pregnancies of many mares when I worked full time with horses. Never had an improperly presented one, but I scared myself silly each spring by re-reading Blessed Are the Broodmares!
Yep, the vet was on call in Bristol, the practice is the next town over, the closest one that handles large animals. I have put baby goats right into the car and brought them in....but the hubby had the car today. Our local vets do refer the tough cases to Tufts or Cornell.
I was able to talk to the vet on the phone to get specific instructions on checking her for other kids, and felt confident with his advise, which he felt confident in giving me.
Pics tomorrow, hopefully, since dh has to get up early for work and we are all pooped! Plum is napping (stuck in her thumb and pulled out a plum and said, "what a good girl, am I!"
) and I am trying to figure out the bottle feeding thing, with all the conflicting info out there!
Yep, the vet was on call in Bristol, the practice is the next town over, the closest one that handles large animals. I have put baby goats right into the car and brought them in....but the hubby had the car today. Our local vets do refer the tough cases to Tufts or Cornell.
I was able to talk to the vet on the phone to get specific instructions on checking her for other kids, and felt confident with his advise, which he felt confident in giving me.
Pics tomorrow, hopefully, since dh has to get up early for work and we are all pooped! Plum is napping (stuck in her thumb and pulled out a plum and said, "what a good girl, am I!"
) and I am trying to figure out the bottle feeding thing, with all the conflicting info out there!
