ksalvagno
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You are correct in not wanting to do anything on the farm with the female. Absolutely take her off the farm to cull her. Why take any chances?
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Emmetts Dairy
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I agree, take her off the farm to cull her.ksalvagno said:
I am sorry you are going through this. Its the hardest part of having goaties. We have to make decisions that are never easy and are heartbreaking. Its for the best, really. I know sometimes that dos'nt help..but it really is. Im sure you know that...
I hope you find peace through this. I'm sure its difficult for you.
babsbag
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Isn't it possible that someone may want the doe? If you are honest and say in the ad that she is CL positive maybe someone that already has CL goats will take her. It might make it a little less painful on your human kids.
I have a doe that came back with a titer of 1:32 so "positive". Another 1:8 , so technically negative. I have never had a lump on either of them and it has been a year since we did that test. It is like living with a time bomb, but I am not going to do anything about it at this time. I expected a lump to show up when I bred her, but she was ok. I am going to test again in a few weeks just to see if anything has changed. I keep thinking that maybe I shouldn't breed her since that compromises their immune system, but she had such a gorgeous doeling last year that I want to do it again.
I have no real history on the goats. The people I bought them from have never seen an abcess on any of thier goats, but who knows where this garbage comes from. I didn't know enough about goats to ask all the right questions unitl I already owned them. I only know that it is my cross to bear for now.
I am truly sorry you have to deal with this. These things are always harder when there are children involved.
I have a doe that came back with a titer of 1:32 so "positive". Another 1:8 , so technically negative. I have never had a lump on either of them and it has been a year since we did that test. It is like living with a time bomb, but I am not going to do anything about it at this time. I expected a lump to show up when I bred her, but she was ok. I am going to test again in a few weeks just to see if anything has changed. I keep thinking that maybe I shouldn't breed her since that compromises their immune system, but she had such a gorgeous doeling last year that I want to do it again.
I have no real history on the goats. The people I bought them from have never seen an abcess on any of thier goats, but who knows where this garbage comes from. I didn't know enough about goats to ask all the right questions unitl I already owned them. I only know that it is my cross to bear for now.
I am truly sorry you have to deal with this. These things are always harder when there are children involved.
babsbag
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I asked the previous owners if they ever vaccinated and they said "no". They also said they never saw any abcesses on any of their goats. They used to show goats so who knows what might have been brought into their property. If the stuff can be spread by a cough then that is always possible, even at a show. It is just a real pain to deal with. The doe that tested 1:8 is her sister from a different year, but same farm and same dam. So why one and not the other?
TheSheepGirl
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CAE and CL seem to be a real problem. It seems to be so common, I would hate to think of how many goats would be killed if Every single goat that tests possitive was culled out of operations. There would be thousands of goats that were killed.
A new test has been developed known as PCR testing. A study was done with this test. When 38 animals that tested positive with the traditional method were tested with PCR testing 5 of them were found to be negative. 26 of 78 suspected cases were found to be negative with the PCR testing. That is significantly higher than 4 in 1000 false positives.
I just thought it was kinda interesting.
A new test has been developed known as PCR testing. A study was done with this test. When 38 animals that tested positive with the traditional method were tested with PCR testing 5 of them were found to be negative. 26 of 78 suspected cases were found to be negative with the PCR testing. That is significantly higher than 4 in 1000 false positives.
I just thought it was kinda interesting.
Question: Did you have to go look that up again, or did you read about it and then it just came rolling right off the top of your head?
Understand that it means nothing either way. I'm just trying to figure out some stuff about myself right now and this sounds *very much* like something I'd have posted.
Understand that it means nothing either way. I'm just trying to figure out some stuff about myself right now and this sounds *very much* like something I'd have posted.
TheSheepGirl
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I looked it up cause I was curious about it. The charts were kinda confusing, but the info was summed up later.
I had read in a book that more than 50% percent of all the goats in the U.S. would test positive CAE and CL.
If that is true then most of the owners of the goats don't even know about it and therefore the goats would have a good chance of living a normal life.
One of our Lamancha does is supposed to have CAE. We were told to watch her for signs and symptoms. She has not shown any. Even if she did I can't imagine killing her for it.
I had read in a book that more than 50% percent of all the goats in the U.S. would test positive CAE and CL.
If that is true then most of the owners of the goats don't even know about it and therefore the goats would have a good chance of living a normal life.
One of our Lamancha does is supposed to have CAE. We were told to watch her for signs and symptoms. She has not shown any. Even if she did I can't imagine killing her for it.
ksalvagno
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Everyone has to do what is right for their farm. If you can live with the diseases, that is great. But if you have reasons for not being able to have those diseases on the farm, then humane euthanasia is certainly better than being neglected or abused because no one wants to properly care for the goat.
