What to do about stray dogs?

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Mike CHS

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I'm not sure how smart deer really are but there are a lot of hunters around us and since we don't shoot them we have probably around 20-25 in our woods all deer season then we go back down to the 6 or 7 that live here full time. We are not anti-hunting but all of the deer we see on our place aren't afraid of us and they walk around the edge of the pasture at all times of day. They leave my garden and orchard alone now that we are here full time.
 

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They are that smart. When there's more activity in the woods it drives them into new areas. Pretty sure the one my husband got in our yard last year was driven out by hunters in his territory. He should have gone to My parents house up the road...
 

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People want the "pretty deer" and DON'T want anyone to hurt/kill/eat them because that's "wrong"... right up until those same deer are eating all their expensive landscaping, or cause their dogs to chase them across the road and get killed by a car, or draw in predators like coyotes and mountain lions. Then it's up to the fish and game departments to find a way to pay to control/move the deer or the predators or both. Part of the problem with the liberal/progressive movement who are anti gun/anti hunting. The sheer stupidity of these people is astounding. Little do they realize it but it's the hunters and fishermen that pay through license fees and taxes on sporting goods to "manage" these animals and the land. These sportsmen & women pay for the dept of wildlife/fish and game! Eliminate the hunters, you eliminate the fish and game department's funding!

Deer and virtually ALL hunted animals are smart... VERY smart! Out west where I used to hunt mule deer and elk, you'd find entire herds would move down into farmers hay fields just outside of town and stay there until the season was over, then migrate back into their normal living areas. Used to frustrate me to no end to see all these big delicious animals, hanging out in these farmers fields where you couldn't hunt them. The land owners wouldn't let strangers on the land to hunt, and in many places it was to crowded with homes and such to fire off high powered rifles.
 

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Speaking of which, NH had some big drama regarding the proposal of a bobcat season this year... Fish and Game recommended due to numbers that are too high to sustain... They had such backlash they gave in. We'll see what happens when they end up in neighborhoods.
 

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See? Uneducated people! They want fish and game to manage wildlife, but when there's too much wild life and managing needs to get done, they get all in a tizzy! When they start missing their little dogs and cats, maybe then they'll wake up... Nah...probably not.
 

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We have way too many deer in our area. I don't shoot them but I let my neighbors boy take all he wants as long as it is does only.
Curious why "does only" for the neighbor's son? A doe will only have one or two or maybe once in awhile triplets; a buck can service many does....here with all the damage they do to the hayfields and finding them in the lots with the cows actually eating with them some times, to me all of them are fair game. I like wildlife, but I usually hit - rather have one run into me - at least one a year due to the increasing numbers and there are alot of hunters in this western part of VA. Got one the other morning on the way to work, put a couple of dents in the fender, busted the plastic grill....killed the doe. I get a little tired of all the ones that have moved here and don't allow hunting and then they are b****g about the damage the deer are doing to their fancy landscaped yards, just like @Latestarter said. "oh they are so beautiful...blah blah.." until hunting season, and mating comes around, and they hit one. Or when we have dry conditions and they are in the yard eating some 100 dollar bush...And now with re-introducing some of the natural predators....next we will have problems like they have had in places where the cougars are attacking joggers....I don't want to go out and just mow every wild animal down.... but hunters aren't all the bad guys either. Running deer with dogs is not allowed west of the blue ridge mtns., but I have no problems with someone doing it. Do you realize that the kids learn about life, they are spending time with their family/mentors, they are learning responsibility, getting exercise, and they spend alot of money on both the care of the animals, and the liscense fees that help to keep up the parks and forests and all that??? Sure some sit and eat KFC in their truck waiting for the dogs to sound pursuit, but they have a real investment in the equipment they they use to moniter the dogs. And those dogs don't run loose all year and harrass the livestock or the wildlife like so many of the "oh my doggie would never chase or kill your cow/goat/sheep/chickens" pet owners.
 

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We have way too many deer in our area. I don't shoot them but I let my neighbors boy take all he wants as long as it is does only.

Yeah, I agree with @farmerjan this is a bit backwards.

Although we all prefer the taste of the does it is wiser to reduce the bucks. Some buck meat is so strong I can't eat it. Ultimately we yeild to the old timers here. They let ya know what needs to be bagged. Of course this is also determined by tags. County by county they determine what is out there and what your limit is.

On my way back from taking Blue to the vet the other night there were so many deer it was dangerous coming home. In a 3 mile stretch alone there were over 20 deer.

My son hunts for the family and he said so far between what he sees and what is on the game cam there are so many bucks it is pretty bad. Next year it may be does... who knows. But I do like doe meat far better.

BTW deer legs are great for your LGD! A dental cleaning without the vet and expense! ;)
 

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I don't agree with the reasoning myself but in our zone that is all you are allowed to take (does). I haven't seen a buck on our place since we bought it but I'm sure they are out there.
 
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