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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks for all your help. :)
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    new to meat rabbit keeping i have a few questions

    Welcome, trcarlton. :) I'm still pretty new and don't usually post much myself. Your post just caught my attention. :) If you're wanting to make money off the rabbits, your best chance is probably selling them as pets. Generally, you can sell them for more $$ at a younger age, while for meat...
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    Sudden death in kits, stiffening?

    I've got something strange going on with one litter of kits. I've lost 3 from the same litter now, and looks like a 4th may be on its way. They seem to be fine, and then I discover them outside the box -- stiffening, cold and looking dead. I can massage them, warm them up, and they revive...
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    Kit fine until yesterday and was stiff but alive today died

    having a similar problem, about to make a thread ...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Bottlejaw GONE as of Tuesday evening. She STILL wants mostly hackberry leaves, so I'm leaving her with that, browse, and hay. I'm still offering alfalfa pellets. She looks a little better, though of course she's going to be thin for a long time. Eyelids have just the tiniest bit of pinkish...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks, everyone :) I actually have her on Probios, I just keep forgetting to mention that when I list all the other stuff. I am using the Probios gel, and giving her about 1-1/2-2x the regular dose, I'd say. It's the only thing I give her that she doesn't HATE. LOL poor girl. I'll look into...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks, I appreciate that. Her mama will be glad to get them then. She thinks I must be giving treats from the syringe when I pull the sick one anyway. Makes sense. I was thinking of getting her more calories and tempting her appetite, but I can see with rumen digestion wanting to keep it on...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks, everyone. :) Nothing new to report. She's finished with the Valbazen yesterday, and I'll follow it up with Cydectin ... right? In a week? Still has bottlejaw. Was ok in the morning, but of course much worse this evening after having her head down browsing all day. Eyelids appear to be...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks, Emily, I'll look into that. I looked it up after I read your post. Not available here, but I can order some when I am able to. Update ... The bottlejaw was worse this morning, and even worse tonight. Her eyelids are starting to show a little more pink. This morning she refused ALL...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Well, according to the charts I saw the links posted to here Copper is 6.6 +/- 2.9 ppm and the bordering county is 4.8 +/- 0.8 ppm. I'm right on the border. I give her a red loose mineral (it's all I have been able to find) formulated for goats. She was eating it sporadically before, but I...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    OK, I'll be brave and post a pic of her, who knows, may help if I'm missing something.
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks very much. Sigh ... yes, I guess we make bad calls sometimes. I did all the research I could, and did the best I could. I'm just regretting her condition now, but if it turns out she can be restored to good health and I can even straighten those legs out, that would be great. I made...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Nothing to panic over then? I've only seen it once before, in a young very weak doe kid, and she was at death's door when she got it. I had another doe a few years back that KEPT a heavy barberpole load, seemed nothing I did could clear her up or get her FAMACHA looking good, and she never...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    True. Any rate, what's done is done, might as well move forward. Gave another 8mL Valbazen, another (same) dose liquid multi-B, upped the molasses and red cell, and gave her 30mL of a calcium/phosphorus/vit-D supplement (good quality liquid for humans, that's a human dose - it was all I had on...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Vet tells me she does NOT have cocci ... but ... I'm not sure how far I can trust this vet. Sigh ... I wonder now if I shouldn't have saved my money on the fecal and just gone ahead. It didn't seem wise, but on the other hand, it hasn't really helped much so far either. I would have assumed...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    I appreciate that. I'm almost afraid to tell anyone, but she was 11 months old. Like I said, I keep thinking I should have given her Lute. The only other time I had a doeling that young get in with a buck, I didn't question at all and gave her lute right away (but she was undersized for her...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    I'm afraid mine was younger than that. :( So I certainly don't mean that as a comment against anyone who does it that way. Thanks, and I do hope she can recover. Maybe her mama will give me a couple more just like her next year too, instead of the twin bucklings she gave me this year. One...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Missed this before I answered. Yes, I think I'm looking for a new vet. There is one around here who "had goats" and I'm going to talk to her. Otherwise, I think I'm out of luck unless I want to travel a LONG ways. The other one I'd considered was a horse vet. This one I see now ... He does...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Thanks, y'all, She still has a long ways to go, and I'm not 100% confident of her recovery. Still, she's a STRONG girl as far as her will and how she USED TO be. I'm still kicking myself for letting her carry those kids. The doeling is a doll, and I'm glad to have her, but not at the risk of...
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    VERY skinny doe - updated post 38 - bottlejaw :(

    Oh, and I should have reported on her condition!!! She's still scary-thin of course, still scouring but not as bad. She DOES have a better appetite, almost cleaned up the grain I gave her this morning, and took the clover I gave her, and went looking for leaves, so I put her back in the pasture...
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