Buckling Issues *Pics Page 2*

[aggieterpkatie]

I haven't given Probios...but I guess I can add that to the list as well.

Probios is a waste of your time right now and actually may make the problem worse. Adding more "live culture" stimulants to an already over stimulated rumen? Wait with that until after you have him 'running" right, then use the probios to restart his rumen...JMO...

Honestly, that's exactly what I thought, I just didn't want to be rude. I rarely ever use Probios anyways. Plus, since he's not in immediate danger, I'm trying on thing at a time so I can try to pinpoint the issue.

 

[cmjust0]

First of all, questioning someone's "shot in the dark" isn't rude...it's normal. I don't mind.

Now...question...is he burping at all?

 

[ksalvagno]

Do you feed him separately from the others? Do you have a large (wide) feed pan that you could use? What about putting large rocks in the feed pan and then spreading his grain around. It will force him to slow down. Also, I feed some animals by themselves because they eat too fast with others around and when they eat alone, they figure out that they don't have to scarf it down.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

CM, I guess he's burping. I haven't heard him burp, but every time I'm in with him he just wants to be in my face and is too busy smelling and nibbling my lips/hair/ears/chin/etc to act normal (yanno, like he's too preoccupied to ruminate).

And K, he's got a metal hog pan for feed, and he has to chase the grain around the bottom of the pan. I'm going to try to tie him up to eat today. Actually, I'm going to skip graining him and see what happens. Luckily I'm off work for the next 4 days (WOO HOO!) so I have time to play around with things (instead of rushing off to work).

 

[cmjust0]

Type I vagal indigestion?

 

[jodief100]

Type I vagal indigestion?

I read over the description. It says the animal probably won't be eating well. The OP said he was still hoovering his food.

I wouldn't rule it out but I have my doubts.....

 

[aggieterpkatie]

Type I vagal indigestion?

I'm not sure about that. I'll keep it in mind. Though it'd be pretty cool to have a rumen fistulated goat!

 

[()relics]

I recall when I was in school, there was a cow that had a rumen fistula. It was fun to look into the rumen to see the food that the cow had eaten being digested....I don't think the cow enjoyed it though. It was a chronic bloater and had the surgery "to futher the study of an active rumen"...It never really grew or gained any weight, it just kind of stayed around as a living science experiment that would ocasionally be wheeled out for some "new test"...It died when I was a senior...they took the fistula assembly out, it had a plate glass viewing window, and that was the end of that. It probably still sits in some laboratory today, the assembly that is.

 

[jodief100]

I recall when I was in school, there was a cow that had a rumen fistula. It was fun to look into the rumen to see the food that the cow had eaten being digested....I don't think the cow enjoyed it though. It was a chronic bloater and had the surgery "to futher the study of an active rumen"...It never really grew or gained any weight, it just kind of stayed around as a living science experiment that would ocasionally be wheeled out for some "new test"...It died when I was a senior...they took the fistula assembly out, it had a plate glass viewing window, and that was the end of that. It probably still sits in some laboratory today, the assembly that is.

Most Ag colleges have "cows with windows". I know Kentucky State and University of Idaho do, I have seen them. It is pretty standard for studying cow digestion.

And yes, it is COOL!

 

[cmjust0]

I'm usually not a proponent of feeding processed foods to ruminant animals, but I think I would almost HAVE to feed one of those a handful of goldfish crackers one day...just for the irony.