Cissy is positive for CL, vet is trying to convince not to euthanize.

[helmstead]

 

[ksalvagno]

I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope the Case-Bac works for you.

 

[Shiloh Acres]

Wow, I had missed the recent posts on this. I'm so sorry to hear you're having to deal with all this. I hope the case-bac works for you.

Just so sorry.

 

[Roll farms]

In my experience, vaccinating for CL in a positive goat will only make more lumps.

(The body senses the invading bacteria in the vaccine and since it already knows how to react / fight it (abscess) it does just that...with more abscesses.)

I've stopped vaccinating our "known positive" does and only do the new additions and keepers born here.

I've never had any luck w/ the vaccine 'curing' an infected goat. That's in 2 years of using a vaccine made from our goats and 4 years of using the one from Colorado Serum.

It does seem that after the initial 'outbreak' things slow down. I have some who only get 1 or 2 lumps a year.

I hoped for the best for you, but I will say I thought all along that it was CL...the location and look of it were classic, IMHO.
But I didn't want to be the lone chicken little telling you your sky was falling.

The goal was to get into goats and breed and now we're being judged by our vet for wanting to euthanize two goats with an infectious disease that we could spread to OTHER farms in our area.

You might rethink that comment, as I have never spread CL to another farm / breeder...and we even do outside breeding for folks (who know in advance about the CL and make the decision based on references, our honesty, and their own comfort level.) and sell 50 or so kids a year...NOT ONE of which has tested positive.

I've said before and will say again...it CAN be managed, and it IS a pain.
The dams can't be allowed to raise their kids (even the clean ones, because the kids might get into a pen w/ a lumpy doe...and then I couldn't sell the kids in good conscience.) I can't always breed a doe when I want to if she's got a lump, since our boys are clean and I won't risk exposure, even though they are vaccinated.

Your goats, your call....the vet shouldn't judge you.

 

[Hykue]

I'm so sorry, that must be so frustrating and disheartening. I hope they do recover somewhat. From all your previous posts it's obvious how much you care about them, so this must be incredibly hard for you. I'm sorry.

 

[lilhill]

So sorry you are going through this.

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

Your goats, your call....the vet shouldn't judge you.

Yes, this is your personal decision to make and it's terribly unfortunate you are in a position to do so. But if you weigh all the odds and decide to euthanize your vet should support you. So sorry about your experience, you obviously care about these girls!

 

[glenolam]

She'll be back in a week from the goat breeders conference (thats a real kick in the teeth, isn't it..) and will probably try to convince us not to euthanize again. We may be looking for a new vet, and won't be getting goats again.

#1 - if she's going to a GOAT breeding conference, why don't you ask HER to take Cissy and Mione? Since she's sooooo concerned with your decision, maybe she can (NO OFFENSE TO YOU WITH THIS COMMENT!!!) handle it?!? Hopefully she'll talk to the breeders there and get different opinions on what "they" would all do. It seems to me that any breeder will do what they think is best for him/her and their goats, and what you think is best is to euthanize. Others think differently, and that's OK. But to preach something you wouldn't do yourself, to me, is wrong.

#2 - I don't think you should give up on having goats just because of this incident. You've worked long and hard to get to this point. Plenty of people have goats with no problems what so ever, and plenty have goats with every known problem to man. You, my friend, are on the short end of the stick right now.

We're here for you. I feel for you and hope that you and your family come out of this well.