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I have never had pot belly pigs, so can't say with them... but ANY AGGRESSIVE behavior by a hog unless it is a sow defending her young against another ANIMAL, is just not wise. They can bite, fast and hard and once there is blood, they are worse than sharks. NO JOKE !!!! Ran a dozen sows , raised feeder pigs to sell, and the minute one even got a little aggressive to me, her days were numbered in how soon I could get the pigs weaned and her to the slaughter plant. YOU ARE NOT THEIR COMPETITION, NOR THEIR ENEMY, and a 4 year old boar is too old to try to change his mind.
We had a duroc boar that we used to breed some hampshire and duroc cross sows with. He belonged to a friend since we only had 2 or 3 sows at the time. After using him, he went back home and had 10 - 20 sows to breed, and then in 5-6 months we borrowed him back. He had a SUPER disposition and his pigs all did too, as we kept several gilts to use as future breeders. We called him george, and then when he had gotten pretty big the owner said whenever we got done with him that time to take him to the stockyard. My son was 8 or 9 years old, tall for his age, and he would go call george into his pen when I was hand milking my cows and I never saw him even grunt at Michael. He was gentle with the sows and when we did finally ship him he weighed 905 lbs and both of us cried because he had become such a part of the farm. Any animal, any time, can turn on you, but if ever you could trust a hog, he was it. I had one first time gilt that wanted to go after me when she had her first (AND ONLY) litter of pigs.( not his daughter). Used a 2x4 when she came after me and that was only after I hollered and tried a couple of lesser tactics. And I knew of an old man who raised hogs for years, and a sow got after him, drew blood and several went nuts and they actually tore him up and killed him. These were hogs he'd had for years. I still love hogs, don't have a place for them right now, but they can be dangerous.
Around here pot belly pigs are not worth anything as they say the meat is very fatty with not much actual meat. They nearly give them away at the stockyards, and so many people that get them raise them as pets and they often get spoiled dispositions. I have known some people that raise/keep them like dogs so that's okay for them; but there is no salvage value except your own freezer around here. Best of luck but for your first time with pigs you really ought to just raise a few castrated males (barrows) for the freezer as they are the least likely to get moody, the females will come in heat and show their less than stellar dispositions sometimes....PMS!!! and yes I can say that being female myself!! Get a feel for them and then decide if breeding is what you want to do, and if so, get some that have value so that you can make the litters pay for themselves so your meat is "free" so to speak.
 

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After all that I've read here, and the research I've done as a result of it, I've begun to believe that "boar taint" is more a figment of most folks imagination. As long as you handle the meat cleanly, and don't let it get contaminated with hair, body fluids, etc, then age it and cure it appropriately, it shouldn't be an issue. Since PBP's are "lard pigs", you'll probably end up with quite a bit of fat. If you do a search of @Ferguson K for her pig threads, she talks specifically about the PBP's and meat products. There are other posts I recall as well. But you'll have to search for them.
 

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I think I'm gonna give him a few more days. If I decide processing him is the way to go is there any way to avoid boar tant?
Not at that age, except to castrate him The vet would be my choice, and to keep him 60-90 days as the hormones work their way out of his system. Sausage would be best, but I wouldn't eat him; he'd go and I'd take my loss and go forward.
 

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After all that I've read here, and the research I've done as a result of it, I've begun to believe that "boar taint" is more a figment of most folks imagination. As long as you handle the meat cleanly, and don't let it get contaminated with hair, body fluids, etc, then age it and cure it appropriately, it shouldn't be an issue. Since PBP's are "lard pigs", you'll probably end up with quite a bit of fat. If you do a search of @Ferguson K for her pig threads, she talks specifically about the PBP's and meat products. There are other posts I recall as well. But you'll have to search for them.
Believe me it is not a figament of the imagination with bigger, older standard size hogs. That is why boars are sold and used almost exclusively for processed, seasoned meats like bologna and other cooked type meat products will take the taint out. Worked with several "old-timers" over the years and had a friend that worked in a small slaughter/processing plant and he told me years ago not to bother killing and eating a boar hog. Again, I have never eaten or processed a PBP.
 

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No boar taint is not a figment of the imagination. But it has been proven that it does not affect all hogs equally. Any older sow or boar that is butchered I would turn to sausage. The real bad boars become pepperoni (makes you wonder what you're eating when you buy food huh.)

@farmerjan is absolutely correct. I have had barrows and gilts, but never raised a boar. My friend's Duroc boar is the sweetest thing you'll ever meet, until the sows are in heat at his farm. Then back off! Our gilts we have now are nippy and boy watch out when they are in heat. We have raised barrows for meat and they are by far the most enjoyable.

None of us are anti pig, I love my pigs, but I think it's important to know just how dangerous they can be. They are smart and strong.
 

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NH homesteader , thanks for the support. I know how so many people think one is anti- this or that because you try to impress on a new to farming person the difficulties, and dangers of animal ownership. I do love hogs and miss them, but of all the homestead animals, they can probably do the most damage the fastest to an unaware person. They are faster than you can imagine, stronger than an ox and smarter than they are ever given credit for. Also one of the most tasty and versatile meats you can eat!!!!
 

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Absolutely all livestock can be dangerous but pigs, cows and horses top my list. Pigs are so darn smart. They'll hold grudges too, and wait to get back at you (hence the cattle prod probably being a bad idea. If they think you were cruel they'll be the same back)

That being said they can be wonderful and I love having them. But I'll turn my back on my goats and don't stress if they get out. I have strong pig fences because I do not want them out! At all!

The pet pig trend worries me.
 

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The pet pig trend worries me.

I would agree whole heartedly.

I would also have to agree that it depends on the pig. A 600lb breeder that's covered many sows in his lifetime will go to dog food. A PBP that is only a few months old would probably be fine. They have a lot of fat on them, makes for great lard soap. You can also boil the fat down for broths.

An aggressive Boar, when a sow isn't in heat nearby, will quickly go to the freezer. If not for us, for the dogs. An aggressive Boar when there's females in heat around will be tolerated, on certain circumstances. I will never enter a pen hat has a sow in heat and a boar at the same time. Never. They will be separated using a chute system... or several people to watch your back.

As with all livestock: a male will defend his mate. No mate=freezer.
 

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*update* I'm sure my boar was only being aggressive due to one of my sows being in heat. I had her separated due to the dominant sow being extremely aggressive towards her. I will be leaving the boar and sow together for the next few days before I separate them again. Thanks for the info and help guys!!!
 
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