Is this cross would make a good family cow?

aggieterpkatie

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Even if you're raising dairy cattle, you still get to sell the heifer, so it's better than getting just a bull calf. You can sell the heifer for the same price as a bull calf, so you get twice the money you would've gotten for a single bull calf.

And twins in horses are a bad thing, hardly EVER survive, and trying to abort one fetus is sometimes tricky and will kill the second one also.
 

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aggieterpkatie said:
Even if you're raising dairy cattle, you still get to sell the heifer, so it's better than getting just a bull calf. You can sell the heifer for the same price as a bull calf, so you get twice the money you would've gotten for a single bull calf.

And twins in horses are a bad thing, hardly EVER survive, and trying to abort one fetus is sometimes tricky and will kill the second one also.
Yes, twins in horses are not good. Had it happen once and neither survived. I personally only know of one instance that both twins survived but they both needed lots of assistance in the beginnging months and one ended up being bottle raised. They were both colts and gelded at weaning. One was always bigger and stronger than the other that was bottle fed. The stronger one ended up being sold as a cutting horse and sent out west and the bottle fed one was a pleasure horse briefly until dying of a respiratory illness.
 

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A horses uterus is only designed to hold one foal, so twin foals are often small and pretty underdeveloped and most will die within a few days. IN fact, most twin pregnancies end in reabsorbtion or miscarriage at around five months. A mare who is carrying twins must be monitored closely, rested, and fed CAREFULLY so that the foals do not grow too large in utero.
IF the babies are born healthy, they can survive, but it is rare and a lot of work on a person, for one must be pulled and bottle raised, or both left on the mother and supplemented, else they will both starve to death. This is provided the mother survives the delivery, of course. I've seen it a few times, twins born........most die. Twice, I decided to euth the smaller less developed twin rather than spend days fighting a losing battle. In one set, both babies survived, and made great ranch horses later, but the mare and I were both exhausted.

Triplets.....about 5 horses worldwide have gone to delivery with triplets and in every case the mare and all the foals died.

Twin calves.......they are considered food as soon as they hit the ground here.
 

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redtailgal said:
A horses uterus is only designed to hold one foal, so twin foals are often small and pretty underdeveloped and most will die within a few days. IN fact, most twin pregnancies end in reabsorbtion or miscarriage at around five months. A mare who is carrying twins must be monitored closely, rested, and fed CAREFULLY so that the foals do not grow too large in utero.
IF the babies are born healthy, they can survive, but it is rare and a lot of work on a person, for one must be pulled and bottle raised, or both left on the mother and supplemented, else they will both starve to death. This is provided the mother survives the delivery, of course. I've seen it a few times, twins born........most die. Twice, I decided to euth the smaller less developed twin rather than spend days fighting a losing battle. In one set, both babies survived, and made great ranch horses later, but the mare and I were both exhausted.

Triplets.....about 5 horses worldwide have gone to delivery with triplets and in every case the mare and all the foals died.

Twin calves.......they are considered food as soon as they hit the ground here.
Wait one of my cows had twins and they are so cute. One is a bull calf and the other a heifer. I want to keep the Heifer. :hit
 

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Symphony said:
redtailgal said:
A horses uterus is only designed to hold one foal, so twin foals are often small and pretty underdeveloped and most will die within a few days. IN fact, most twin pregnancies end in reabsorbtion or miscarriage at around five months. A mare who is carrying twins must be monitored closely, rested, and fed CAREFULLY so that the foals do not grow too large in utero.
IF the babies are born healthy, they can survive, but it is rare and a lot of work on a person, for one must be pulled and bottle raised, or both left on the mother and supplemented, else they will both starve to death. This is provided the mother survives the delivery, of course. I've seen it a few times, twins born........most die. Twice, I decided to euth the smaller less developed twin rather than spend days fighting a losing battle. In one set, both babies survived, and made great ranch horses later, but the mare and I were both exhausted.

Triplets.....about 5 horses worldwide have gone to delivery with triplets and in every case the mare and all the foals died.

Twin calves.......they are considered food as soon as they hit the ground here.
Wait one of my cows had twins and they are so cute. One is a bull calf and the other a heifer. I want to keep the Heifer. :hit
I am sure that you are aware that a twin heifer to a bull calf is a free Marten... she will never be capable to produce a calf !!!
 

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I'm hoping that she will be fertile, even though its a very slim chance. I'm having my vet come out tomorrow to check the calves anyway.
 

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Symphony said:
I'm hoping that she will be fertile, even though its a very slim chance. I'm having my vet come out tomorrow to check the calves anyway.
What will he be checking for ???????????
If the calves are healthy then save a vet bill and why pay him to tell you what Bossroo has told you for free
 

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Hmm, well I haven't had them checked out yet. I want to make sure they are all healthy. I know when my Horses are healthy but I don't know Cattle as well.
 

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A vet will not be able to tell you if she is fertile or not. You'll have at least a two year wait on that.

I've NEVER seen a free martin heifer conceive. Never. Do what you need to do, but that's a lot of expense for a barren cow.

And, healthy calves are calves that pee, poop, and nurse. If you can tell if a foal is healthy, trust your judgment on the calves.
 

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Around MY AREA, calves 100lbs or better you make out well on, but smaller Jersey calves cost almost as much to ship as you get $ for. Nobody want to buy a free martin heifer and it isn't worth it to raise them for beef when you can raise a Jersey steer.
 
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