Khaleesi's Kidding Thread - Babies Born!!!

[babsbag]

I breed father to daughter quite often.

 

[Goatgirl47]

I breed father to daughter quite often.

 

[thailand]

Ok, thanks for the replies. It would seem a shame to wether Jabari with him being 1/2 Saanen. (Various goat breeds are not easy to find here). I think I'll keep him as a buck and use him with Khaleesi at least. Finding a buck to 'borrow' for Aaliyah might prove very difficult....but we'll cross that path when we get to it.

Still haven't wormed Khaleesi I going to go into town today and try to find ordinary Ivomec if I can...if not then guess I'll get Ivomec-F (Plus). Also better try to source some CD&T. (In a few weeks time I'll need help with how to inject the babies, but that can wait for now).

 

[Goatgirl47]

Sounds good, although personally I wouldn't breed Jabari to Khaleesi.

I am worse then you, Clover kidded 16 days ago and I STILL haven't wormed her! I did order a natural wormer today, and it should come sometime next week.

 

[thailand]

Goatgirl, I SO appreciate what others are doing/not doing by way of worming etc. I'm a TOTAL newbie and am just kinda 'stuck' in limbo at the moment with what I should do next. Is it Molly's dewormer you have ordered? I've been pondering going that route....but I can only imagine the cost of delivery to Thailand would be prohibitive. You've perhaps spurred me into action and I think I'll at least contact them and make enquiries.

I haven't yet purchased a microscope to do my own fecals. However, over the next 9 days there is a big agricultural fair at our local university here. We're definitely going so I will see what info they might have to offer on goat husbandry.

 

[Southern by choice]

Do they have fenbendazole 10% there? Brand name here is Safe-gard?

Molly's is fine for maintenance but will not get a high load reduced adequately and is NOT a dewormer.
It is used primarily as preventative but you want to use the product after the parasitic load has been dealt with first.

I simply cannot say it enough... as many farm calls as we have done and fecals run I just shake my head.
So convinced their natural dewormer is great and I end up seeing EPG Counts att 1600- over 2000 and pale lids...

KNOCK out the worm load FIRST then use the naturals but keep a close on on the lids... checking every month.

 

[thailand]

Ok. Yes, we can get Fenbendazole here. Thanks Southern, that's what I'll use. I'll buy some tomorrow on way home from church!

I've really needed to get myself 'unstuck' on this de-worming topic!!! THANK YOU!

The previous owner was de-worming her monthly/every 2nd month. From all my reading thus far, that is not the way to progress forward.

Oh - I'm learning so much..such a very steep learning curve.

Has anyone heard of the Red Cotton Tree (genus Bombax, family: Malvaceae or Mallow family)? Khaleesi has taken to sneaking at eating the fallen flowers during her browsing time! So far it doesn't seem to be a problem, but always good to check with you guys.

 

[Goatgirl47]

Goatgirl, I SO appreciate what others are doing/not doing by way of worming etc. I'm a TOTAL newbie and am just kinda 'stuck' in limbo at the moment with what I should do next. Is it Molly's dewormer you have ordered? I've been pondering going that route....but I can only imagine the cost of delivery to Thailand would be prohibitive. You've perhaps spurred me into action and I think I'll at least contact them and make enquiries.

I haven't yet purchased a microscope to do my own fecals. However, over the next 9 days there is a big agricultural fair at our local university here. We're definitely going so I will see what info they might have to offer on goat husbandry.

Yes I ordered from Molly's Herbals, this is what I got for the goats.

 

[sadieml]

Well, I tried to get some info on the Ivermectin from the manufacturer and this is what I received from them:

Your message
Is ivermectin F safe for goats, and if so what would be the dosage, milk withhold and usage recommendation post-kidding?

RE: Aspen

AHI - Info Aspen

To: sadieml
Wed 2/24/2016 5:53 PM

Hi Lesa
Our product is not labeled for goats so we are unable to give you medical advice for you animals. We suggest you contact your local licensed veterinarian.

Thank You!

I really hate drug companies, but they are what they are. So sorry I couldn't help at all.

 

[sadieml]

BTW - I am a beginner, also, @thailand but I am trying to get lots of info so that when decisions present themselves, I can make informed choices. I know that a lot of folks don't like line breeding, but mother/son and father/daughter is generally considered safe. Remember that animals and people are not the same, so it isn't a moral issue, just a practical one, and sometimes there is no choice. I don't blame you for wanting to hold on to the Saanen blood. Brother and sister are not a good breeding pair because they share all of their genes, not just half like parent and child. Since it's best to wait until sometime after 12 mos before breeding does, you have time to seek an acceptable buck for Aaliyah. Since, as @Latestarter pointed out, males are potent quite early (pygmies as early as 6 weeks), you'll want to separate Jabari from Aaliyah as she approaches maturity. Maybe you can work a deal with someone to stud for you in exchange for a kid. Also, you will probably want to keep your next buckling and wether him to be Jabari's companion. Of course, these are all eventualities, since your kids are so new. For now, try to enjoy things. It always passes too quickly.