Let's Look at our Different Feeding Practices *GOATS*

CelticOaksFarm

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Ok, I have read through 90% of the replies here. Love seeing how others care for their goats from all over. I would like specific info for the south, we are in FL so looking for others in state or deep south and what you feed, and what your deworming schedule is.

Our hay supplies fluctuates between coastal hay (grass hay) and oat hay available. We have a wonderful feed store who delivers twice a month to us at no extra cost. I have spent lots of time at their store and on the phone having them order in feeds and whole grains for me. (lots of geese here) they are a purina carrier among others. We use to feed Nutrena goat, but Nutrena then required the store to buy an entire load of Nutrena feed at a time. Not good as he turns over stock rapidly and won't sell old feed. So back to purina we went.

I would like some guidance on feeding as I am a stickler to dietary needs for the animals here. After realizing the breeder we got the first goats from gave us no real help, I am reading everything I can on diet needs.

Our group:
1- wether fainter 2 years old

1- Nigerian/Nubian buckling (3 weeks old) currently being bottled

1- Nigerian doe and her daughter (daughter is 2 months old)

1- Nigerian doe and her daughter (daughter 5 months old)

I have read alot about not feeding goat feed, but alphalpha pellets. Can others weigh in on what is a good base feed and WHY. I understand everyone has an Oppinion, I would like to be able to read the why with the feed so we can make a choice.

Currently we keep the following whole grains:
Whole wheat
White millet
Brown millet
Wheat
BOSS

They are added to and used with the waterfowl we raise.

The goats are out all day every day, we rotate where they graze depending on the time of the year. Winter they get the rear pasture where they clear the marsh grass and mangrove trees. During the heat of the summer that pasture is not available to them because of water levels. So they are either in a north east pasture covered heavily in live oaks and palm trees and grass, or the south east of similar trees/grass. They also have access to the rear yard if we are expecting rough storms. (on the coast, on an island here).

We have a very thickly overgrown 1/3 acre area none of the animals have access to, but where we can cut and offer browse to the goats from. Everything here grows thick and very rapidly, we have eliminated many tropical plants from the areas where the goats have access leaving it friendly and safe for them to be in as we enjoy them far more than the plants.

Looking forward to hearing what others have to say.

Location: Merritt Island, FL - sub tropical - 90' - 100's summer highs / 50's - 60's winter lows
We deal with heavy summer rains, hurricanes, high humidity. However we live right on the coast (on an actual island) and have amazing breezes all day.
 

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I just spent the last day and half reading this entire thread as I had time. How interesting!! I've learned lots already. For what it's worth, and take it with a grain of salt because I'm a new goat owner, having only read everything I could get my hands on for the last year in preparation. We got our goats almost three months ago.

Live in Central Wisconsin, hot/humid summers, can have extreme cold winters and heavy snow. As you might imagine, I haven't cycled through seasons with them yet, but so far don't see me changing a whole lot except maybe going through more hay in the winter.
1 - 4 month old mini-nubian doeling
1 - Standard Numbian/Sanaan cross First Freshener
They are not related.

Kenzie is still on a bottle, but is being weaned as I write this. I've just started giving her a bit of grain while I'm milking Lexsie and she's started doing more browse the last couple of weeks.

Lexsie gets an organic goat feed, Nature's Grown Organics, that is here in Wisconsin, along with a scoop of BOSS while being milked. She browses a really nice assortment of weeds, trees and bushes in the pasture daily with lots of fresh water.

http://naturesgrownorganics.com/complete.html

I supplement with free choice organic kelp, baking soda and organic minerals (again from Nature's Grown). As we are very selenium deficient, I also throw in some of Fir Meadow's Kop-Sel herb mix a few times a week. I use Fir Meadow's herbal wormer once a week. We keep Fir Meadow's 'Better Daze' and 'Gods Greens' on hand, along with probiotics and molasses. So far everyone is doing great and Lexsie's coat has improved a ton since we got her. *crosses fingers*

Edit to add: I forgot I also have an alfalfa/timothy grass hay mix available 24/7 to them. Duh! :)


Thanks for sharing, everyone!!
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Mom to Dagobaz, Harley, Kleiner and Juda (the Dane Gang) and Lexsie and Kenzie the goats.
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elevan said:
GoatFaerie said:
I have a huge personal beef with corn (I'll spare you all my rant) and would prefer not to ever feed it to my goats (and chickens) that I'll be getting next spring. Does anyone else feel the same? If so, what supplemental feeds and such do you use?

My goats will get plenty of free range on an PacNW Hillside with all the raspberry bushes they could ever want in addition to the usual growth :) Is it necessary to still purchase hay when there is plenty of grass, trees, etc for them to munch on all day?

Side note, there is 1 tree that IDK what it is. Anyone good at identifying Rhododendron if I take a pic?
Please remember that no one is wrong in their practices on this thread...so no rants on corn :) I think that if you read through this entire thread you'll find that there are quite a few non-corn supplements listed.

If your goats have access to browse year round (and it's good quality) then there really is no need to supplement.

As to identifying a plant...there are lots of threads on the forum that you might have a look at. If not, please post a new thread to identify your plant (I'd really like to keep this thread about feeding practices).
I love this thread! I've read every post and have learned alot. I don't have goats yet, just doing my homework first :)

Eleven, I'm sorry to disagree with you but I'd love hear what GoatFaerie has to say. Her comments did not come across (to me anyway) as hostile or inflamatory at all - just her opinion, just as everyone here has an opinion on any other type of feed or supplement. Just because she doesn't like corn doesn't mean that she is telling anyone that they are wrong or bad. If she knows something about corn and its (potential) pros/cons or ill effects - I want to hear it.

If you wouldn't mind, could we let her give her thoughts on this? :)
 

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Harbisgirl said:
elevan said:
GoatFaerie said:
I have a huge personal beef with corn (I'll spare you all my rant) and would prefer not to ever feed it to my goats (and chickens) that I'll be getting next spring. Does anyone else feel the same? If so, what supplemental feeds and such do you use?

My goats will get plenty of free range on an PacNW Hillside with all the raspberry bushes they could ever want in addition to the usual growth :) Is it necessary to still purchase hay when there is plenty of grass, trees, etc for them to munch on all day?

Side note, there is 1 tree that IDK what it is. Anyone good at identifying Rhododendron if I take a pic?
Please remember that no one is wrong in their practices on this thread...so no rants on corn :) I think that if you read through this entire thread you'll find that there are quite a few non-corn supplements listed.

If your goats have access to browse year round (and it's good quality) then there really is no need to supplement.

As to identifying a plant...there are lots of threads on the forum that you might have a look at. If not, please post a new thread to identify your plant (I'd really like to keep this thread about feeding practices).
I love this thread! I've read every post and have learned alot. I don't have goats yet, just doing my homework first :)

Eleven, I'm sorry to disagree with you but I'd love hear what GoatFaerie has to say. Her comments did not come across (to me anyway) as hostile or inflamatory at all - just her opinion, just as everyone here has an opinion on any other type of feed or supplement. Just because she doesn't like corn doesn't mean that she is telling anyone that they are wrong or bad. If she knows something about corn and its (potential) pros/cons or ill effects - I want to hear it.

If you wouldn't mind, could we let her give her thoughts on this? :)
Members are more than welcome to start a thread to discuss the pros and cons of a certain feed and put a link here for it but I prefer not to make this thread a place to offer debate. A post here such as "To discuss the pros / cons of feeding corn follow this link ..." would be acceptable.
 

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I'd also love to know if anyone here sprouts whole grains for their goats. I don't think I've seen that protocol yet. I'm thinking about it since I only have two, but I realize how time intensive it would be for a larger herd.
 

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We are pretty new to this and I have a question. We have 2 mini- Nubians. A buck and doe. We feed them each about a solo cup (about 16oz?) and a half of sweetened goat mix twice a day, all the fresh cut hay at their disposal and their pens are in wooded areas so all the weeds, roots, vines, and anything else they want to pick at they have to eat whenever they want. My question is what to do about the minerals. Neighbors around who have goats told us to get the mineral block and that they will love and go crazy over it. But any specific kind to give them the minerals they need? Thank you for your help!
 

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jwh210 said:
Location: North Eastern Pennsylvania

We are pretty new to this and I have a question. We have 2 mini- Nubians. A buck and doe. We feed them each about a solo cup (about 16oz?) and a half of sweetened goat mix twice a day, all the fresh cut hay at their disposal and their pens are in wooded areas so all the weeds, roots, vines, and anything else they want to pick at they have to eat whenever they want. My question is what to do about the minerals. Neighbors around who have goats told us to get the mineral block and that they will love and go crazy over it. But any specific kind to give them the minerals they need? Thank you for your help!
2 things come to mind for you

1 you want to have AC ammonium chorlide for your buck so he doesn't get UC urinary calculi which is urinary stones that can be fatal

2 loose mineral for goats made for goats
 

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Also how much and how often do I give them the minerals?
 
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