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Margali
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I gave Snickers his daily grain early since it will be pouring all evening. He allowed chin and behind the ear scritches. So I think he will not hold the doctoring against me.
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Baymule
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Ya gotta admit, that purple splotch is rather fetching! 
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Margali
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How do you keep flies from laying eggs in a wound? Is BlueKote daily good or do I need something else? @farmerjan @Ridgetop
It looks like there was a broken wire on their hay feeder. Head went in fine but when Snickers pulled back it dug into him.
It looks like there was a broken wire on their hay feeder. Head went in fine but when Snickers pulled back it dug into him.
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Margali
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So I watched a couple sheep videos and they said a 0.5% peremthin spray on wound. I got to TSC 30min before close and bought this.
I also gave Snickers a CDT shot since I don't know vax history. The fly spray is blue so he looks great.
Still super chill and came over for a treat. Poor dude probably wishes he never left old home.
I also gave Snickers a CDT shot since I don't know vax history. The fly spray is blue so he looks great.
Still super chill and came over for a treat. Poor dude probably wishes he never left old home.
Baymule
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He’s a sweetie. All the last couple of days and he has a great attitude.
purplequeenvt
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That screw worm spray is the best. Kills maggots dead and keeps flies off for a couple days.
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Anything like what you got is good to use... Be careful to not get it in the eye but it looks like this ram is one of the "one in a million"..... maybe not a "RINGO" but it sounds like he is a close second.... especially for being new to you and still sooooo accepting...
GREAT for YOU....
You will get the little things like this worked out....
GREAT for YOU....
You will get the little things like this worked out....
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You don't have to be the breeder of the animal except when showing in the "breeder-owner" class. You do need to have his paperwork as the owner UNLESS your daughter is showing the sheep in junior classes (youth/4-H, etc). Then all sheep must be registered in her name. Since she is interested in showing, I would register all sheep in her name. * Register the new ewes in her name. Then she will show as breeder of record on paperwork for new lambs. Register all those lambs born in her name since she can't show sheep that are owned by anyone other than herself in youth classes at Fairs. Having the entire flock showing in her name is important in youth classes because in Fairs there will be flock classes where she can show multiple animals in the class and there are money premiums paid for placements. With enough "flock" entries and high enough premiums being paid she can eventually come home with a nice fat check. DS2 had a terrific quality LaMancha herd. His last 3 years showing in Fairs, he brought home checks anywhere from $300 to $500 per Fair. Since you are acquiring top quality Katahdins for your flock, she will probably be participating in both Youth and Open shows in Fairs, as well as Breed associations shows.
*Check the Fair rules for youth entrants. Make sure that she can show in open events as well in Youth events. Often if there is a Youth show, the child must only show in the Youth show or forefeit her Youth standing. If she is barred from showing in the Youth show (district residence requirements, etc.) then she is usually allowed to show in Open and still maintain her Youth standing. You need to check the rules each time. There was a family in our area that knowingly disobeyed the Youth rules and was caught - she lost her youth standing for a year and was barred from Fairs for a year. It is not worth taking a chance. Also, all work and fitting at Youth Fairs or shows must be done by the youth entrant or youth friends. The parents or other adults cannot assist other than holding animals at ringside, or exchanging animals from pens to ring while the youth exhibitor is in the ring. Some Fairs are stricter than others and I never liked to take chances. Moving hay bales, grain sacks, and equipment is permitted but fitting of the animals is a no-no. You can talk the child through the operation, but don't pick up the clippers except to replace it in the tack pen.
Some Fairs have flock classes. These are "are Junior Flock" - lambs younger than a certain date; "Senior Flock" - yearlings and older. The flock classes are to show that you are producing good animals as similar to each other as possible. There are also "Get of Sire" - all lambs out of a certain ram, may have different dams; "Produce of Dam" all lambs out of a certain ewe, may have different sires. These classes are to show the ability of the sire or dam to reproduce themselves in their offspring.
The goal in any livestock raising situation is to breed good animals to the Standard of Perfection for that breed. Once you are producing that model of perfection the goal is to be able to prove that it was not a one-time fluke, but you are able to produce as many of them as possible that are identical to each other in type and the Standard of Perfection. Another class is "Pen of Three" which comprises 3 animals you have bred that are the same age and as similar to one another as possible. Again, the goal is to prove that you can produce similar animals to the Standard of Perfection in quantities.
Some Fairs restrict you to one entry in each of these classes, others have no limit to how many entries you can have in each flock class. These are the money classes in Youth shows since not everyone has families that encourage their children to have breeding programs to the extent that they would be able to retain enough animals to enter flock classes.
Snickers is 5 years old so would be in the "Stud Ram" class if there is one. Sheep shows only have classes for junior lambs, senior lambs, yearlings, 2-year-olds, divided by sex, and occasionally stud rams. After 2 years the ewes are supposed to be in the pasture producing lambs and rams are supposed to be busy helping the ewes to produce lambs. LOL Market animal breeding classes are different from dairy classes in that dairy goats and dairy cattle have classes for senior animals since half of the points judged on are for udder and udder capacity. They are shown in milk.
In Fairs with junior breeding animals shows, you do not always have to be a member of a youth organization located in that district. If you are showing market animals for the Youth Auction, you must be a member of a youth organization located in that district, or an Independent who lives in the district. There are various rules for each Fair which can be stricter than the State Rules.
Livestock shows sponsored by the various breed associations will have their own rules and classes. Those shows will sometimes auction off the animals and sometimes not. It depends on each individual organization. Some of those shows will sometimes have youth classes, particularly for showmanship, but the ownership of the animals does not have to be registered to the child. No premiums are paid for placements. Entry in these shows does not affect any Youth standings in Fairs. Multiple entries in classes are allowed and you can show animals in the ring with her.
If you want, you can IM me and I will give you whatever other information you want on this subject. DH and I had the most fun of our lives going to Fairs and watching as our children went from us helping with fitting at home to them being able to do everything themselves at the fair, including shaving udders with a surgical blade. DS2 drew his own bloodwork for CAE testing every year on the goats, and learned to do AI and semen collection. As an older teen he also judged a couple practice shows for FFA and worked as ring steward. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN - WE MISS IT.
*Check the Fair rules for youth entrants. Make sure that she can show in open events as well in Youth events. Often if there is a Youth show, the child must only show in the Youth show or forefeit her Youth standing. If she is barred from showing in the Youth show (district residence requirements, etc.) then she is usually allowed to show in Open and still maintain her Youth standing. You need to check the rules each time. There was a family in our area that knowingly disobeyed the Youth rules and was caught - she lost her youth standing for a year and was barred from Fairs for a year. It is not worth taking a chance. Also, all work and fitting at Youth Fairs or shows must be done by the youth entrant or youth friends. The parents or other adults cannot assist other than holding animals at ringside, or exchanging animals from pens to ring while the youth exhibitor is in the ring. Some Fairs are stricter than others and I never liked to take chances. Moving hay bales, grain sacks, and equipment is permitted but fitting of the animals is a no-no. You can talk the child through the operation, but don't pick up the clippers except to replace it in the tack pen.
Some Fairs have flock classes. These are "are Junior Flock" - lambs younger than a certain date; "Senior Flock" - yearlings and older. The flock classes are to show that you are producing good animals as similar to each other as possible. There are also "Get of Sire" - all lambs out of a certain ram, may have different dams; "Produce of Dam" all lambs out of a certain ewe, may have different sires. These classes are to show the ability of the sire or dam to reproduce themselves in their offspring.
The goal in any livestock raising situation is to breed good animals to the Standard of Perfection for that breed. Once you are producing that model of perfection the goal is to be able to prove that it was not a one-time fluke, but you are able to produce as many of them as possible that are identical to each other in type and the Standard of Perfection. Another class is "Pen of Three" which comprises 3 animals you have bred that are the same age and as similar to one another as possible. Again, the goal is to prove that you can produce similar animals to the Standard of Perfection in quantities.
Some Fairs restrict you to one entry in each of these classes, others have no limit to how many entries you can have in each flock class. These are the money classes in Youth shows since not everyone has families that encourage their children to have breeding programs to the extent that they would be able to retain enough animals to enter flock classes.
Snickers is 5 years old so would be in the "Stud Ram" class if there is one. Sheep shows only have classes for junior lambs, senior lambs, yearlings, 2-year-olds, divided by sex, and occasionally stud rams. After 2 years the ewes are supposed to be in the pasture producing lambs and rams are supposed to be busy helping the ewes to produce lambs. LOL Market animal breeding classes are different from dairy classes in that dairy goats and dairy cattle have classes for senior animals since half of the points judged on are for udder and udder capacity. They are shown in milk.
In Fairs with junior breeding animals shows, you do not always have to be a member of a youth organization located in that district. If you are showing market animals for the Youth Auction, you must be a member of a youth organization located in that district, or an Independent who lives in the district. There are various rules for each Fair which can be stricter than the State Rules.
Livestock shows sponsored by the various breed associations will have their own rules and classes. Those shows will sometimes auction off the animals and sometimes not. It depends on each individual organization. Some of those shows will sometimes have youth classes, particularly for showmanship, but the ownership of the animals does not have to be registered to the child. No premiums are paid for placements. Entry in these shows does not affect any Youth standings in Fairs. Multiple entries in classes are allowed and you can show animals in the ring with her.
If you want, you can IM me and I will give you whatever other information you want on this subject. DH and I had the most fun of our lives going to Fairs and watching as our children went from us helping with fitting at home to them being able to do everything themselves at the fair, including shaving udders with a surgical blade. DS2 drew his own bloodwork for CAE testing every year on the goats, and learned to do AI and semen collection. As an older teen he also judged a couple practice shows for FFA and worked as ring steward. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN - WE MISS IT.
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Margali
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Snickers is doing good and let me look at his head. It is all dry, no weeping and was insect free at that moment. Hopefully it continues to heal well.
Oreo gave me a scare. She started frothing at the mouth after about 5 minutes on pasture. Captured her and gave her about 10cc of peanut oil in drench gun. Talked with @Baymule and I will get more baking soda to leave out.
Oreo gave me a scare. She started frothing at the mouth after about 5 minutes on pasture. Captured her and gave her about 10cc of peanut oil in drench gun. Talked with @Baymule and I will get more baking soda to leave out.
