Oh, man... I'm hoping it's just **UPDATE 2** 2 are relapsing??

[helmstead]

Just a note...CoRid does work against cocci...but in HIGH doses. BUT giving B complex at the same time will void the effect...so you shouldn't bolus with B while working with CoRid.

We have used CoRid in conjunction with DiMethox when we have had particularly tough runs with cocci. Even at the extremely high dosages needed for the CoRid to work - we have never had thiamine deficiency issues from the B inhibitor. Down south, where we're from...Sulmet is no longer effective against cocci - most strains are resistant. Guess it all depends on your region.

Also, Roll...Sulmet and DiMethox are NOT the same drug!
Sulmet = Sodium Sulfamethazine
DiMethox (Albon) = Sulfadimethoxine

Happy little addition is that the fenbendazole (Safe Guard), while somewhat weak against worms, is used frequently as an antiprotozoal against cocci (again, in conjunction with a sulfa drug!)...so giving the 3x recommended dose will also help kill off the cocci.

CyLence also works great against lice, but I agree with Roll on going forward with the ivermec.

Don't go postal on the breeder. While they might have been lax in care or might not have...young goats can 'go' fast from the slightest change. They might have been perfectly fine at their farm, and the simple change of location was enough stress for them to fall ill. A windy ride in the back of a truck for instance, in the chilled evening...and boom, shipping sickness.

Good luck! Keep at it!

 

[FarmerDenise]

You can give your goats yogurt or kefir too (just make sure it is unsweetened and has live cultures in it). These are probiotics and help the digestive tract. When my baby goats were sick the vet also suggested electrolites. I get the ones in an envelope for around $5, they have vitamins in them too. The goats like it. I feed it to them in their bottles.

I am a newbie too. Consider it a nasty lesson learned. I did!
I certainly know what NOT to do next time.

 

[Roll farms]

Just a note...CoRid does work against cocci...but in HIGH doses. BUT giving B complex at the same time will void the effect...so you shouldn't bolus with B while working with CoRid.

See, you can learn something new every day...I give them extra b while treating w/ sulmet, but it makes perfect sense not to when treating w/ Corid. Honestly I never pondered it much since I don't use it.

Also, Roll...Sulmet and DiMethox are NOT the same drug!

I know Sulmet and DiMeth are different, but they're (sort of) the same class (sulfa) drug, my point was "use something different from Corid"...trying to simplify my post....my bad.

I don't use Sulmet, I use DiMethox...but Sulmet is more common at feed stores, at least around here.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

Dosage for 9.6% Corid (5 day treatment, not 21 day prevention) is 1 mL per 21 lbs of body weight daily for 5 days.

 

[helmstead]

Dosage for 9.6% Corid (5 day treatment, not 21 day prevention) is 1 mL per 21 lbs of body weight daily for 5 days.

Not even close. Remember I said extrememly high doseage? It's 6 1/4 cc per 25 lb, used undiluted right from the bottle, for 5 days.

Roll, yes you generally have to order DiMethox or beg a vet for Albon. I never even bother recommending Sulmet anymore. The corid will work...at the above dosage...and IMO is better than Sulmet.

But then we get back to the fact that we're not just dealing with cocci here, more than likely...which is prolly why you wanted a sulfa...but the Pen will cover that.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

Dosage for 9.6% Corid (5 day treatment, not 21 day prevention) is 1 mL per 21 lbs of body weight daily for 5 days.

Not even close. Remember I said extrememly high doseage? It's 6 1/4 cc per 25 lb, used undiluted right from the bottle, for 5 days.

Roll, yes you generally have to order DiMethox or beg a vet for Albon. I never even bother recommending Sulmet anymore. The corid will work...at the above dosage...and IMO is better than Sulmet.

But then we get back to the fact that we're not just dealing with cocci here, more than likely...which is prolly why you wanted a sulfa...but the Pen will cover that.

Ok, well I was going off the dosage on the label.

 

[helmstead]

Yeah you have to do off label use...or else it just doesn't cut the mustard.

 

[Holachicka]

Thanks a bunch! Got up this morning at 5 am to give shots and meds, because I had to leave at 6:30, THAT is dedication! I really hope they all make it. They are all so sweet, I poke them, shove things down their throats, make them eat nasty stuff, and they wag their little tails and love on me the whole time, when I'm done they look at me like, where are you going? don't leave! I'll start the heavy doseage of corid as soon as I get home. I'll be picking up the Ivomec today as well. I hope all of this works.

I've been trying to give the seller a chance, but she's not returning my phone calls and I am being very polite when I call, I don't plan on ripping her head off, but they were very thin and I'm certain she was not caring for them properly. I also want her to know that she needs to check and treat her other goats. with her avoiding me, it makes me think she knew they were sick.

 

[Roll farms]

I get a lot of comments such as "I don't register mine until they're 9-12 mos old and I'm sure they'll live." or "I hate bottle babies, they always die on me." and it stumps me...our kids do very well, and since I got cocci under control, none have died in over...6 years I guess....

The part of it that amazes me is that the people who make these comments to me, don't seem to want to FIX what's killing their kids, like 'oh well, it's just part of it.'

 

[aggieterpkatie]

Yeah you have to do off label use...or else it just doesn't cut the mustard.

No wonder, I just looked again and the dosage on the label is for calves and not goats. Duh.