Weather goat 106.7 temp

[tjo804]

Vets -- bless their hearts -- are often not well versed in goats. In TX they should be with all the goats that are there!! But it has often been thought alfalfa increases calculi. I know people who feed ONLY Alf and no issues. Try to find orchard grass or even orchard grass pellets -- Standlee prob makes them.

He feels crappy & now his food & water are changed. Yeah, he doesn't want any, thanks! You should see improvement once antibiotics take over. I'm fairly certain it was a broad spectrum type to cover all bases. My goats love carrots, apples, turnips, celery, bread and pumpkin. See if he'll eat any of those -- lift his spirits and blood sugar levels, without grain. He'll get back to forage as he feels better. Any fresh grass around?

Yes he has access to grass, okra leaves, mulberry leaves he loves carrots, he has access to bark and mini melons from the garden and I have billie block for him we keep hay out even though they wont eat it I also have dried beet greens (smart Beets I think its called) alfalfa pellets and hay replacer pellets, I have not tried bread I thought that was a no no. would sour dough starter be ok for him? I dehydrate extra sour dough when I dont have time to use all the scrap when I feed it. that way if I kill it with neglect I have it already to rehydrate. but for now it is just crumbs. I will look for those pellets at the feed store or tractor supply he does still have fresh water as well as the ACV water 2 buckets. I also have raisins and pumpkin seeds I do have squash that I grew this spring and I do not mind sharing that either Thank you for the Ideas I have been so afraid to do the wrong thing that I have not really done so much with fresh foods. should I offer him black strap molasses?

 

[Baymule]

Is he drinking now? If not, you may have to use a syringe to make sure he is hydrated.
Let us know how he is doing.

 

[tjo804]

Is he drinking now? If not, you may have to use a syringe to make sure he is hydrated.
Let us know how he is doing.

I will keep you posted you all have been so helpful to me. Thank you,
my husband is going to watch him today and I am going to put water buckets in view of the cameras so I can watch from work. I will get his temp again before work when he gets his banamine. My husband thinks the rutty buck is bothering him so I am going to let him have the pasture and as the does go to bed and the buck gets to roam Az will still have the pasture. If the buck gets a little nuttie I could put the does I plan to breed to him in during the day with him. But getting Az better is first priority. I still have some questions since no real testing was done but one temp at a time today.

 

[tjo804]

He did drink some water today and mostly laid around his temp tonight was 104.9 DH said he has been coughing off and on today. I have called the vet 3 times since the visit with no call back to my questions.
The Antibiotic was Nuflor all I can find on that is for respiratory issues and she said his lungs sounded good. google also said it was not recommended for goats in the USA. what ever that means

I am wondering if I should give him Vitamin B complex and some selenium??
DH said he spent most of the day licking the Billie Block in the barn.

Sadly I still have no idea what is causing his fever.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Nuflor is a good drug. A lot of drugs are "off-label" for goats but are commonly used. B-complex would be fine for him. I think at this point that supportive care will be important. The b-complex and some probiotics would probably be beneficial. Is he eating? When I've had sick goats they seem to perk up over some tasty leaves. I'll try to offer them a variety of whatever might be available.

It may take him a few days to come around but the lowered temp is a step in the right direction.

 

[tjo804]

Nuflor is a good drug. A lot of drugs are "off-label" for goats but are commonly used. B-complex would be fine for him. I think at this point that supportive care will be important. The b-complex and some probiotics would probably be beneficial. Is he eating? When I've had sick goats they seem to perk up over some tasty leaves. I'll try to offer them a variety of whatever might be available.

It may take him a few days to come around but the lowered temp is a step in the right direction.

he is eating some he really wants the grain but vet said no more grains so I am giving him a mix of alfalfa pellets, hay replacer pellets and smart beets because that is what I have on hand here until I get to town on saturday. around the yard he had some leaves, a couple of small melons, (small duck egg size melons) and I gave him some carrots. he still has no interest in the coastal hay. "off label" is that like people taking horse wormer for the vid?

I think if I only have a couple minutes to google research anything I should just go pet my goats. He stayed in the barn last night, but he is going to have to go back in with the buck soon i think, is that going to be ok? Oreo is getting stir crazy being by himself.

He is looking better just not chipper yet, I wish I knew what caused the fever.
I am so grateful for you all!
Thank you

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Is he still peeing and pooping normally? Is he in good flesh? Is he a standard sized goat or a mini? If you're pretty sure you aren't dealing with urinary calculi then a tiny bit of grain to entice him to eat something probably wouldn't be horrible. I'm talking about a treat sized amount rather than a full-meal deal. However, I don't think it's absolutely necessary if he has access to other edibles and utilizes them.

As far as going back with the buck I think it depends on the buck. If the wether still isn't 100% then he might be molested by the buck and that would stress him more. On the other hand, if they're buddies then having a little competition at the hay rack might work in your favor.

Yes - you've got the right idea about off-label. A lot of drugs haven't been specifically approved for goats but are commonly used.

 

[tjo804]

Nuflor is a good drug. A lot of drugs are "off-label" for goats but are commonly used. B-complex would be fine for him. I think at this point that supportive care will be important. The b-complex and some probiotics would probably be beneficial. Is he eating? When I've had sick goats they seem to perk up over some tasty leaves. I'll try to offer them a variety of whatever might be available.

It may take him a few days to come around but the lowered temp is a step in the right direction.

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Putting Az to bed tonight he has a slight red tint to his urine I am hoping that is coming from the sweet beets. But I am afraid may not be. Today his fever got down to 104.9 before work and tonight it is at 104.1
I gave him the milk of magnesia and moved his rumen until it grumbled small amount of urine it does look red.

What can I do besides wait for him to pass?

 

[tjo804]

Is he still peeing and pooping normally? Is he in good flesh? Is he a standard sized goat or a mini? If you're pretty sure you aren't dealing with urinary calculi then a tiny bit of grain to entice him to eat something probably wouldn't be horrible. I'm talking about a treat sized amount rather than a full-meal deal. However, I don't think it's absolutely necessary if he has access to other edibles and utilizes them.

As far as going back with the buck I think it depends on the buck. If the wether still isn't 100% then he might be molested by the buck and that would stress him more. On the other hand, if they're buddies then having a little competition at the hay rack might work in your favor.

Yes - you've got the right idea about off-label. A lot of drugs haven't been specifically approved for goats but are commonly used.

DH said it looked more like red wine than blood in the urine, could that be from the dies in the milk of magnesia or from the antibiotic?

 

[tjo804]

I did get a call back from the vet tonight she said to try and grab a sample of his urine and she can spin it down tomorrow and see if it is hemoglobin or myoglobin and we can go from there. she said she feels better about his temp and that he is eating even just a bit. she said no more milk of magnesia. so I will bring a mason jar to the barn and wait for him to pee.