Coronavirus Covid-19 Is it Affecting You and How?

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Again I say. Keep me informed. WARN me even. But stop trying to make decisions for me. My life. Let me risk it if I want.
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I believe in a person being informed and then able to make their own decision..... but like the climbing the rock face in the Rocky Mountains, and you are risking your own life..... the problem is that you are also risking the lives of the rescue people who are coming to get you when you fall off that mountain and get hurt..... But in general I mostly agree with your thinking. You can't make my life totally risk free and trying to wrap me in cotton wool won't solve the problem.
The whole problem is that there are not enough people who are willing to take responsibility for their own actions. And there are those like @Duckfarmerpa1 that has said how naive she is and continues to just believe in people which is too far in the other direction.

You are both right! Risking yourself is one thing, but I look at these quarantines as trying to keep others from risk. Look at all those college kids going on spring break. Stupid! They brag to the news interviewers that they are not afraid of the virus and "deserve" to have their fun. They think they are above the law, and above the risk of infection but they are a selfish group as they have been demonstrating for years now.. By their actions they risk spreading the infection to a lot of other states and other people getting infected when they return home.

The quarantines are to keep the number of infections down and not spreading the germs around by minimizing human contact. Granted, it is annoying, and I resent being told I can't go certain places. But the whole scope of this virus is unknown to our doctors at this time Whatever the Chinese know about it they are not telling anyone. First it was thought to be more dangerous to the elderly and that the young couldn't catch it. Now they know that is not true. Now some theories are that the elderly have a better immune system against it but they die from it because other problems lessen their strength. Now they think that the young might catch it easier but can fight it off better because their youth makes them stronger. But they are not sure because it has not been out there long enough. Finally, some doctors feel there is some evidence that the reason more men catch it is because the X chromosomes are what makes resistance to infection. Men only have one X chromosome which supposedly halves their resistance ability. Now some evidence is coming to light that people on medication for malaria are not catching it. The truth is that no one knows enough about this disease to be sure which of these are true. All may be true or none. Most of the people that are positive for the virus have mild symptoms during the course of it. I do not think that any of us are at more risk than we are from other types of severe influenza strains. There is not a huge mortality percentage here. More than 90% of those who catch it recover.

What I do know is that the news outlets have created this panic. Liberal democrats and their news affiliates (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) have used it as a political ploy to try to make Trump look bad before the elections. Until the liberal dems got caught in their own hype, they were calling Trump a xenophobe and racist for closing the borders to countries where the disease was rampant. Once people started screaming about the "pandemic" they had to reverse course and claim that Trump had not done enough soon enough! The truth is that other flu epidemics have caused more infections and deaths than this one. Another truth is that this epidemic has only started. Showing empty shelves in stores only encourages people to hoard food and supplies.

I agree that it infringes on our personal freedoms. But so does government allowing homeless people to camp out on your front lawns and throw their rubbish and needles in your front yard. So does an open border policy with no supervision of disease, or criminal background, and have us taxpayers foot the bill for them.

This has also caused some good to arise from it. Neighbors making sure that the elderly are ok. GM has turned some of their plants into manufacturing ventilators. Another clothing company have stopped their dress manufacturing to make surgical masks. Stores are placing limiits on the amount of hoarded items people can buy at one time. Families are spending more time together - whether they want to or not. LOL

Death is inevitable, but as the song says - I wanna go to heaven but I don't wanna go right now!
 

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I am looking on the bright side. We have enough of everything. Got 2 dozen eggs 2 days ago, and got flour this morning. 2 huge freezers full of meat. In a pinch we can probably even use the Lamb-Lac formula for milk! LOL Anything we don't have, we can do without or cut back and eke it out. Still hanging on to those magazines and coloring books in case we can't get toilet paper though. A bucket and a hose make a frontier bidet. ;)

We have enough dog food for the LGDs and Bubba can probably afford to go a diet. LOL Hay load coming in tomorrow and the sheep can graze for another couple of months after all the rain. Miss the grandkids, but after next week we will all have been in 2 week quarantine so figure we can probably get together with DD1's family again. They live around 1/2 mile away. Lots of work to do around here. Books, puzzles, board games, movies, TV and phones - that is a lot more than our ancestors had to get them through hard times. :D =D

Only big problem is we might not be able to travel this summer. NO TEXAS FIX?! :th
 

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Browsnville just started a curfew. No one out unless for message such a work, fuel or grocery between 12am-5am. My question is who is shopping at that time...

That was always my preferred time to shop....no body in the aisles, rudely taking up the whole aisle as they stare for a long time at the shelves and you KNOW they can see you standing there to get by. I never say excuse me....I just stand and wait. If they never move, I just go all the way around....I just don't feel like having to remind someone of other people's presence on the planet. If they are that obtuse, there truly is no use talking to them.
 

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Death is inevitable, but as the song says - I wanna go to heaven but I don't wanna go right now!

Pretty silly song....who wouldn't want to go to Heaven RIGHT NOW????? It's incredible to me why so many people not only NOT prepare to go to Heaven, but after they say they have done so, they then add they don't want to go right now. Have they even READ about the place???? Do they even believe it exists? If they do, there isn't one reasonable thought process that would allow them to prefer to live here rather than there.

No, it's not selfish to live your life and move about as normal and do all the things one normally does under these present circumstances. There's absolutely no firm evidence that this is indeed as infectious and dangerous as they say it is, there are so few cases world wide compared to the population of the Earth that it's laughable to even suggest it's dangerous and spreading like wildfire~it's already resolving itself in China, if you can even believe THAT information~ and it would only be selfish to carry on as per normal if there was firm evidence to support the need to do so....there is none, it's all what ifs and smoke and mirrors driven by fearmongering.

Since there is no firm evidence and merely conjecture, it's understandable if people don't trust what they are being told and don't want to obey blindly the over the top measures that have been implemented.

The Emperor is not wearing any clothes and I don't mind being some of the few who point that out. Many like me in the medical field are thinking the same thing....we've seen WAY worse diseases, way more infectious, with WAY less precautions going on and we are knee deep in germs every day that would make most people run in terror, but this isn't one of them. It's a cold virus, one of many, that have been around a long, long time.
 

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Well good day all. Wife went shopping yesterday stores where all stocked just had limits on how much u could buy. We are set but will still do normal shopping as long as we can. Hay prices are dropping around here and livestock prices also. Gun sales are up and ammo is becoming scarce. Homeschooling is going good. Practical lessons even better. Work is still going some places have done quarantine
 

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I have heard that a lot of stock sales and auctions have been cancelled which may be causing that dip in prices. I don't know why though since everyone still has to eat. I am surprised to hear hay prices are dropping in the winter unless the pastures are already growing out.

Ammo getting scarce? I guess it is time to invest in a reloader and powder! DS3 does his own reloads. At his old house he didn't have a garage and kept the ammo under his bed. DIL told me she lived in fear of the bed blowing up one night. LOL

Panic might be dying down with groceries restocking. DH wanted to get Chinese takeout tonight. He felt we should support our local restaurant. It was closed for 2 weeks. No Chinese takeout! :hit Guess I will have to defrost something.
 

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Total agree bee. Both my parents are prone to getting bronchitis and also pneumonia. Dad had bladder cancer and mom is has a lower immune system. My mother in law has three different conditions all three are sick. No clue what any of them have but my parents are getting better. And my mother in law is head to hospital ad a precaution per Dr orders. Life goes on i love all of them and they all three know where they are going. It would be sad to say good bye. My grandmother has copd she also sick. So is one of my aunt's and her 2 year old i also have a nephew who is also at risk after battling cancer. I am not going to worry about any because one they all know wher e they are going and two it does no good, I also believe that God the maker of heaven and earth can,do all things. I posted how I feel about the gov. I just believe we should have the choice we the people are in charge not the government. The more we depend on them the less we can learn and do for ourselves.
 

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You are both right! Risking yourself is one thing, but I look at these quarantines as trying to keep others from risk. Look at all those college kids going on spring break. Stupid! They brag to the news interviewers that they are not afraid of the virus and "deserve" to have their fun. They think they are above the law, and above the risk of infection but they are a selfish group as they have been demonstrating for years now.. By their actions they risk spreading the infection to a lot of other states and other people getting infected when they return home.

The quarantines are to keep the number of infections down and not spreading the germs around by minimizing human contact. Granted, it is annoying, and I resent being told I can't go certain places. But the whole scope of this virus is unknown to our doctors at this time Whatever the Chinese know about it they are not telling anyone. First it was thought to be more dangerous to the elderly and that the young couldn't catch it. Now they know that is not true. Now some theories are that the elderly have a better immune system against it but they die from it because other problems lessen their strength. Now they think that the young might catch it easier but can fight it off better because their youth makes them stronger. But they are not sure because it has not been out there long enough. Finally, some doctors feel there is some evidence that the reason more men catch it is because the X chromosomes are what makes resistance to infection. Men only have one X chromosome which supposedly halves their resistance ability. Now some evidence is coming to light that people on medication for malaria are not catching it. The truth is that no one knows enough about this disease to be sure which of these are true. All may be true or none. Most of the people that are positive for the virus have mild symptoms during the course of it. I do not think that any of us are at more risk than we are from other types of severe influenza strains. There is not a huge mortality percentage here. More than 90% of those who catch it recover.

What I do know is that the news outlets have created this panic. Liberal democrats and their news affiliates (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) have used it as a political ploy to try to make Trump look bad before the elections. Until the liberal dems got caught in their own hype, they were calling Trump a xenophobe and racist for closing the borders to countries where the disease was rampant. Once people started screaming about the "pandemic" they had to reverse course and claim that Trump had not done enough soon enough! The truth is that other flu epidemics have caused more infections and deaths than this one. Another truth is that this epidemic has only started. Showing empty shelves in stores only encourages people to hoard food and supplies.

I agree that it infringes on our personal freedoms. But so does government allowing homeless people to camp out on your front lawns and throw their rubbish and needles in your front yard. So does an open border policy with no supervision of disease, or criminal background, and have us taxpayers foot the bill for them.

This has also caused some good to arise from it. Neighbors making sure that the elderly are ok. GM has turned some of their plants into manufacturing ventilators. Another clothing company have stopped their dress manufacturing to make surgical masks. Stores are placing limiits on the amount of hoarded items people can buy at one time. Families are spending more time together - whether they want to or not. LOL

Death is inevitable, but as the song says - I wanna go to heaven but I don't wanna go right now!
Way to tell it! Heck yeah!
 

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Browsnville just started a curfew. No one out unless for message such a work, fuel or grocery between 12am-5am. My question is who is shopping at that time...
Our curfew is 7pm to 7am...

as for the getting sick part...I’ve had a bad hacking cough for years...mostly from allergies. I take meds..never helps. I actually passed out in November in the barn and busted a tooth and my lip. I had to get tempORARY BRACES...thought I needed a root canal...anyway, I passed out from coughing!! So, I obviously have the symptoms..and to be quite frank, lately my chest does feel heavier on the left side. But, it could still be allergies. I used to get chronic bronchitis too. Could be that. It has me a bit rattled. We searched everywhere today for a thermom, all sold out. I have two, but I use them on my goats and dogs, etc. I don’t really want to just wash it off and put those germs inside me...ugh. I’m sure I’m fine... but with all the crazy talk, every little sniffle or sore throat, makes you wonder. Ugh!
 
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