Holland lop thread

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I'll have to put more pics up of some of my other next time I'm on here. It was nice to see all the pics.


home-sweet-home take care of those little cuties and congrats!
 

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home-sweet-home said:
Our little Sundae had kits 4 days ago. 2 are peanuts. :( But the other 3 look to be doing great!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0003.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0004.jpg

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http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0011.jpg

Looks like we may have another broken sable point :D

Ebony has pulled fur (and stole some from Sundae lol) so we should be getting more kits soon. I keep expecting the peanuts to be gone, but they are still going strong at 4 days (our last peanut lasted 6 days)
What does "peanut" mean?
 

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GuineaLady93 said:
home-sweet-home said:
Our little Sundae had kits 4 days ago. 2 are peanuts. :( But the other 3 look to be doing great!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0003.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0004.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0006.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g149/babyrnlc/rabbits/DSC_0011.jpg

Looks like we may have another broken sable point :D

Ebony has pulled fur (and stole some from Sundae lol) so we should be getting more kits soon. I keep expecting the peanuts to be gone, but they are still going strong at 4 days (our last peanut lasted 6 days)
What does "peanut" mean?
Smaller rabbits, like hollands have a dwarf gene. If two dwarf genes come together in a rabbit's genetics, they cause a deformity called a Peanut. Peanuts unfortunately do not have developed digestive system and do pass after a couple days. Some on this forum in the past asked about peanuts. Home-Sweet-Home, with her pics can now show people the difference between a fully developed kit and a peanut.

Hope this helps,

K
 

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The dwarf breeds of rabbit as the name implies - carry a dwarf gene. A peanut received two copies of the gene instead of the (1) normal and (1) dwarf gene and unfortunately do not survive long. I believe I got that right :/
 

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wolftracks said:
I'm so glad I was finally able to login here today.

I have 2 Hollands and I'm not sure what quality they are. I'll have to post some pics soon. One I was told by the breeder has a color dq, but I liked this one. She's black but has a white marking on the nose. The bick is a tort. They were born Oct 27th, so however old that is. I'm tired and not doing numbers today.

Are there many HL breeders on this site?
There are quite a few.

A black with a white spot is a dq. Did the breeder give you the pedigrees?
 

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lastfling said:
The dwarf breeds of rabbit as the name implies - carry a dwarf gene. A peanut received two copies of the gene instead of the (1) normal and (1) dwarf gene and unfortunately do not survive long. I believe I got that right :/
Usually 3 days. Mine live 6 (but we always bring mom in and let them get an extra feeding. Just in case they are just runts and so my daughter knows she tried everything she can. I am sure we will quit doing that as she gets used to peanuts)

I read about one that lived a year! I have heard about some making it 3 weeks. I am bummed that the cream looking one is a peanut, I would love to see what color it turns out to be. It should probably pass tomorrow. :(
 

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lastfling said:
The dwarf breeds of rabbit as the name implies - carry a dwarf gene. A peanut received two copies of the gene instead of the (1) normal and (1) dwarf gene and unfortunately do not survive long. I believe I got that right :/
I was hoping Sundae was a false dwarf (Sometimes they get two normals and are considered false dwarfs), She is a little bigger (I think Jaylene is a fasle dwarf. She has never had a peanut). A false dwarf and true dwarf together is great because you cannot get a peanut. Obviously Sundae is a true dwarf. That means that 25% can be peanuts. A breeder friend of mine told me one litter she had 5 kits and 4 were peanuts!

We usually just get one. This is the first time we have had 2. It is hard to watch, cause they are cute and sweet and you know they are gonna die. We just love on them and make their first days good ones. It is something you have to deal with breeding Hollands.
 

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home-sweet-home said:
lastfling said:
The dwarf breeds of rabbit as the name implies - carry a dwarf gene. A peanut received two copies of the gene instead of the (1) normal and (1) dwarf gene and unfortunately do not survive long. I believe I got that right :/
I was hoping Sundae was a false dwarf (Sometimes they get two normals and are considered false dwarfs), She is a little bigger (I think Jaylene is a fasle dwarf. She has never had a peanut). A false dwarf and true dwarf together is great because you cannot get a peanut. Obviously Sundae is a true dwarf. That means that 25% can be peanuts. A breeder friend of mine told me one litter she had 5 kits and 4 were peanuts!

We usually just get one. This is the first time we have had 2. It is hard to watch, cause they are cute and sweet and you know they are gonna die. We just love on them and make their first days good ones. It is something you have to deal with breeding Hollands.
That's the hard part of breeding dwarfs. I'm not looking forward to this but it is what it is. At least you know Sundae is a true dwarf. I was told this is really how you find out if the true/false dwarf gene is there in the line.

I love what you and your daughter do for these sweet, but unfortunately terminal creatures. I haven't experience a peanut yet, but I know it is in my future breeding Lionheads. It is sad but you are making their short lives as comfortable as you can.

K
 

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Man the peaunuts are still alive and vigourous! They are 5 days. I wish they would just pass. They are so cute and just snuggle up after we let them eat. They are so skinny and wrinkled.

The other kits are going strong though. And we should get more kits any day (we have pulled fur)
 

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what did you do with the first black litter?
 

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