how do i get lice eggs off my pygmy doe kids

[mully]

Tea tree oil was used by the Aborigines for thousands of years

 

[()relics]

...did they use it on their goats, their dogs, or their enemies? sorry in advance I just couldn't resist...

 

[cmjust0]

Tea tree oil was used by the Aborigines for thousands of years

Look more closely at my post... What I think you'll find is that I was stating my own observations and asking questions of those who claim to be "in the know," so to speak, in regard to tea tree oil.. In fact, I specifically asked for someone to help me understand.

And...for what it's worth...an aboriginal male's life expectancy -- to this very day -- is a mere 59 years, whereas a non-aboriginal Aussie male's life expectancy is 77. Aborigines also have about 3x the fetal mortality rate of non-aboriginal Aussies.

Not exactly the picture of health and longevity.

That said, I can only imagine that the aborigines from thousands of years ago -- the ones you point to as examples of the wonders of tea tree oil -- probably lived to the ripe old age of...what...35, maybe?

Just saying.

 

[cmjust0]

I'm happy to let everyone be their own judge on this one.

In the meantime, I'm still kinda waiting on an education about how tea tree oil is better than ivermectin or pyrethrin.

 

[ksalvagno]

Actually, you may need to use tea tree oil for your lice if you ever get it. Lice in humans is becoming immune to over the counter treatments. There was a story on it in Nightline last week. I don't know if it is all over the country yet but definitely in California and one other state. Nightliine was calling it super lice. They have had to resign to more natural ways of getting rid of lice or stronger chemicals that you can only get by prescription. It is actually a new big business to help people get rid of lice.

I would consider the tea tree oil just another option. If lice in humans is becoming immune to the chemicals used to get rid of human head lice, no reason why that can't happen with Ivomec. Not a bad idea to try other things while Ivomec is still working so you can come up with another option if Ivomec does stop working for you. Just something to consider.

 

[cmjust0]

I just wanted to know why it was being suggested as somehow safer or better -- or, at least, that it's "not like giving another dose of meds" -- considering it's known to be neurotoxic in certain doses and to certain types of animals....

To me, that sounds exactly like ivermectin.

So...I'll ask again, but I'll be more specific this time: Can someone please tell me why using tea tree oil is NOT basically the equivalent of "giving another dose of meds"?

My thinking, at this point, is that people -- for whatever reason -- simply feeeeeeeeel better about using tea tree oil.

 

[cmjust0]

Just FYI...

From the American Cancer Society :

"Tea tree oil is toxic when swallowed. It has been reported to cause drowsiness, confusion, hallucinations, coma, unsteadiness, weakness, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach upset, blood cell abnormalities, and severe rashes. It should be kept away from pets and children. Relying on this type of treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences. "

Ivermectin isn't toxic when swallowed..

Oh, and when applied topically to cats...they die sometimes.

Also of note from that particular link is the fact that the toxic parts of tea tree oil are A) readily absorbed through skin, B) fat soluble, which means they build up, and that C) there's no antidote.

Yeah, totally NOT AT ALL like those evil medications. :/

 

[nifftiness]

I wasnt actualy looking to find out how to kill them. Im hoping i killed the lice with the Dri kill. But im going to follow up in two weeks with something else just to be sure. I hear good points with both methods, but because of the amount of lice on these little ladys, (echo and libby), im questioning if theyv been wormed. Im leaning towards the Ivermectin beacues it kinda nails two in one doesnt it? Im terribly new to all this. Thanks for the advice though. I didnt know about the tea tree oil, and I do love natural remadies. I think everyone just has to remember that moderation it key mabe with anything I suppose even natural things. I read that you can buy tea tree shampoo for people at regular grocery stores and its supposed to help as a resistance to lice if used once or twice a week.

What I meant in my first add is. How do i get the actual eggs out of the hair. Now that their hopefully dead, the eggs are not combing out even with a lice comb and their not washing out. Do I have to wait it out, I wondered if like vegtable oil or something would help them come off. Theirs so much on their face that i wouldnt be able to safely use oil on their heads i dont think. I know that sounds rediculose. Im a bit of a freak like that, lol. I thought about shaving them, but their Pygmys and little and its still cold out here and I have no idea how long it would take for the hair to come back.

 

[Hollywood Goats]

from Wiki on Tea Tree oil:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_tree_oil

and on Ivermectin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin

both are toxic in large quantities. many natural things are toxic in large amounts like Chocolate is toxic to humans and animals it is simply takes smaller amounts to be toxic to animal than humans.

When using a remedy it does not matter if it is natural or not it still needs to be used in moderation.

From the mix use about 1/2 cup of olive oil with 2 or 3 drops of tea tree oil, spray it on the goat, you do not need to throw away the milk as you would with Ivermectin, and like medication.

It is also safe on smaller animals and is safe for people , I have used it for many infections, abrasions, etc.

Everyone can informatively make a decision on which method to use.

 

[Hollywood Goats]

I wasnt actualy looking to find out how to kill them. Im hoping i killed the lice with the Dri kill. But im going to follow up in two weeks with something else just to be sure. I hear good points with both methods, but because of the amount of lice on these little ladys, (echo and libby), im questioning if theyv been wormed. Im leaning towards the Ivermectin beacues it kinda nails two in one doesnt it? Im terribly new to all this. Thanks for the advice though. I didnt know about the tea tree oil, and I do love natural remadies. I think everyone just has to remember that moderation it key mabe with anything I suppose even natural things. I read that you can buy tea tree shampoo for people at regular grocery stores and its supposed to help as a resistance to lice if used once or twice a week.

What I meant in my first add is. How do i get the actual eggs out of the hair. Now that their hopefully dead, the eggs are not combing out even with a lice comb and their not washing out. Do I have to wait it out, I wondered if like vegtable oil or something would help them come off. Theirs so much on their face that i wouldnt be able to safely use oil on their heads i dont think. I know that sounds rediculose. Im a bit of a freak like that, lol. I thought about shaving them, but their Pygmys and little and its still cold out here and I have no idea how long it would take for the hair to come back.

The eggs are super glued to the hairs.

http://www.goatbiology.com/lice.html