If the eyelids are white looking, does that mean they need wormed???

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Hillsvale said:
so what dosage of injectible ivomac is every one using orally becuase I have gotten so many different amounts its insane! Same with the sheep dosage...
I use it orally at a rate of 1ml / 25#
 

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Now someone told me never to use Ivomec orally because it can make them bleed internally..God Im sooo frikin confused on what to give and how to give it..even after reading the info on here regarding worming..Some one told me also that cydectin is the best thing to use where we live (which is in Fl). All I ever see is the pour on..can u give that SQ or orally and if so how much and how often. Please tell me what wormers I need to have on hand and what the schedule is for worming them. I have also seen wormers in the form of pellets. How effective are these or are they a waste of money? There are so many things to choose from its overwhelming to say the least. I just want a scheduled worming routine..is there a such thing?
 

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honeyb12 said:
Now someone told me never to use Ivomec orally because it can make them bleed internally..God Im sooo frikin confused on what to give and how to give it..even after reading the info on here regarding worming..Some one told me also that cydectin is the best thing to use where we live (which is in Fl). All I ever see is the pour on..can u give that SQ or orally and if so how much and how often. Please tell me what wormers I need to have on hand and what the schedule is for worming them. I have also seen wormers in the form of pellets. How effective are these or are they a waste of money? There are so many things to choose from its overwhelming to say the least. I just want a scheduled worming routine..is there a such thing?
Do not give a pour on SQ...it's not sterile.

Cydectin is currently the best dewormer available in the US. Caution should be used that it doesn't get overused and end up with the same problems with resistance that the other drugs do.

Scheduled deworming is a bad idea as it is what has helped create the problems we have with drug resistant worms. That and underdosing.

Read more about deworming here: http://www.backyardherds.com/web/viewblog.php?id=2607-parasite-mgmt

Deworming should be done as needed and not on a schedule.

Pelleted dewormers are worthless imo. A complete waste of money and time.

As to Ivomec given orally and causing internal bleeding? I suspect that someone had a goat with a very heavy wormload and gave them enough Ivomec to dump the entire load at once...which can cause internal bleeding. But it's not the dewormer that's the problem in that case it's the method.

Here on my farm we keep on hand: Ivomec, Safeguard and Valbazen. Others are easily purchased if needed.
 

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what would be the dosage for cydectin..and basically are we saying to treat symptomatically? How do u know if its worm infestation or mineral deficiency..some of the symptoms seem similar in comparison.
 

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also if i were to use the cydectin orally..could I use the paste wormer (Quest) and if so what's the dosage?
 

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honeyb12 said:
what would be the dosage for cydectin..and basically are we saying to treat symptomatically? How do u know if its worm infestation or mineral deficiency..some of the symptoms seem similar in comparison.
Yes, treat symptomatically or when a fecal shows a worm load that needs treated.

Many use Cydectin at the same rate as Ivomec (they are in the same chemical family).

True that many symptoms of worms and deficiencies can be similar. I would suggest having fecals done until you're more familiar with your goats. And even then you need to do fecals as needed. Often a goat that is deficient in minerals is more susceptible to worms...so the 2 will at times go hand in hand.


also if i were to use the cydectin orally..could I use the paste wormer (Quest) and if so what's the dosage?
I've never used Quest.
 

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