~Livinwright Farm's kidding thread~ 2 preggers does... hopefully :)

[elevan]

I would strongly urge you to not induce her. Unless you are 100% sure of her breeding date, you risk inducing early and you'll lose the kids. I know you're worried about her being overdue, but she'll kid when she's ready. Going to day 158 is really late, so I'm doubtful this is really day 158.

Heck, I wanted the vet to induce my ewe this year when she prolapsed right around her expected lambing time. The breeder SAW her be bred, but luckily the vet said he wouldn't induce. It's a good thing too, because she was actually bred a heat cycle later and didn't settle on the breeding the breeder saw.

Unless you hand breed and you know with 100% certainty that the buck had absolutely no way of breeding her after the date you saw, then I would not induce.

The very last day that they had the buck with the girls was Thanksgiving...given that a goat can actually settle 2-3 days after breeding...today could very well be day 155 instead of 158 which would mean she's not really that overdue...

Livinwright Farm...are you absolutely sure that there is no way that Cali could have bred through the fence after you removed the buckling?

 

[Livinwright Farm]

I am not hoping for him to induce her... I want to make that clear. just, that if he decides to, after fully examining her, then I am okay with that.

Trust me, the LAST day she was accessable to the bucklings was Thanksgiving day... so she IS on day 155-159 today. All part of why I want to get her to the vet!
She is only 9 months old as of today, and I know that first timers typically go a week late, and that pregnancies containing 2 or more doelings go a week or so late... I just don't want her kids to get too big for her to deliver safely.


Emily: I am sure that the bucklings could not breed her through their stalls! she has been outside or in the common area of the barn with them locked up(unless she was outside, then they were in the common area). As right now we don't have 2 seperate fenced areas... so this is the best I could do. There is plywood on their stall doors that covers the bottom half of said doors.

 

[elevan]

Ok...then let us know how the vet visit goes

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Ok...then let us know how the vet visit goes

Just called the vet to find out when we could come in, and they told me that they don't really deal with livestock anymore(other than with people that have delt with them for years)... I told them the situation and am now waiting for them to call me back. I informed them that I will NOT bring Cali to the vet that practices reiki...just not going to happen. Hopefully they call back soon and say to go ahead and bring her in. What is happening in this world that you can't find a livestock vet when you need one, not to mention a decent one?

 

[elevan]

I really wish vets that stop doing livestock on a whim would put an ad in the paper or something announcing it. Our old vet did that to us too..."we're not seeing livestock anymore, but we'll still see your dogs"

We found a new vet who we just love and their primary practice is livestock not dogs.

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Just got the call back.
He said that she sounds like she is right at the end.
That it isn't abnormal for a doeling so young to go a week to two weeks past due.
That we should definitely have someone check in on her a couple times through the day tomorrow.
That as long as she doesn't have any discharge and doesn't appear to be stressed she is alright.
He also said that once the babies are born we can go up and get the BoSe injections from him, and whatever else might be required.

My mind is a little more at ease, still not real happy that I couldn't bring her in to find out how her babies are doing or get her checked over, though. :/ oh well.

 

[elevan]

Time to look for a new goat vet or an experienced breeder nearby that is willing to help you out...

 

[Livinwright Farm]

I was really hoping to have an ultrasound done.... I want to know how many are in there & if it looks like there could be complications(tangled legs n' such).
Wish there was a livestock vet around here(aside from the one that practices reiki, and even she is primarily for house pets). At least I know that I will be able to get perscriptions from the guy in Fryeburg if/when needed.

 

[St0rmyM00n]

Can you see the babies still moving around in her?

For me this was not an indication, Gibbs was moving right up till he was born during labor he was still kicking away. But I think if there is 2 they can't move as much. When she does have the baby you know everyone kept saying don't panic lol well I did I panicked but I kept talking my self down to take a breath , clear my mind and just help her.

She did all the work I just guided the baby out I didn't really pull.

Gibbs head was coming out but I couldn't see his legs i put one finger in once the head was out it was loose enough so I didnt have to stretch her and i just used one finger to find his leg, but I was never able to find the second leg and thats when I panicked and I decided to put my right hand over his head and my left under the one leg I just pushed down as she had a contraction she was able to push him out like that when I saw his leg I slowly worked it out it was stuck to his side but it didn't hurt him at all.

I think they are really flexible when they are so tiny he didn't even have swollen joints and he stood up with in a few seconds after being born.

She didn't even bleed much at all just a few drops and that was it and then a little discharge the day after.....

Right when you give up thinking she just isnt going to have it is when they do.

I was ready to throw in the towel for Malina and then pow her ligs were completely gone. It is a distinct feeling so different from feeling the ligs you will know without a doubt when they are gone.

 

[Livinwright Farm]

I've got it! Cali is just waiting for Mothers' Day to go into labor!!! She IS pampered and a little royal highness... perhaps she thinks the day is meant for her?!?!